In addition to looking for the killer, police are still searching for a motive as to why someone would kill Thompson.
This is definitely where they need to focus their resources first.
Yes. It is extremely bizarre how something like this could happen.
Especially since the president elect already said he could do the same thing one block over, four years ago
I’m convinced. This is a South Park episode.
Honestly? Yea probably. It’d be fucking amazing if the police ended up releasing a report on just how much UHC fucked this guy or his family/friends over.
I mean for all we know it has nothing to do with healthcare premiums. The guy could be a fellow board member who got boned out of a bonus or something.
The message on the bullets would suggest otherwise. To me that seems like an attempt to preempt speculation that the motive had nothing to do with insurance company fuckery.
Could just as easily be a red herring.
I mean, most likely it isn’t internal insurance drama, but it could be.
Besides, how amazing would it be for the cops to say “yeah so we researched this and it was definitely a retaliation execution for all the lives he murdered in his quest for money and power”. Talk about putting the billionaire class on alert haha
Tbf, that’s the largest pool of potential suspects, so it makes sense that they’d want to call police attention in that direction regardless of the actual motive. I do think it’s genuine, but it’s a smart move either way
It’s clear they haven’t even given it a first look. The guy put the title of the book on the bullet casings
Too bad they can’t read!
Somebody looking to hide their motive would that too tho
If he shows up at my door, I’ll gladly house him. You should too.
Aiding and abetting murder can result in the same charges and penalties as the principal offender, which could include life in prison without parole
sudo !!
This isn’t true. Harboring someone from the police after they commit a crime makes you an accessory, not a primary.
If enough people are accessories, no one is an accessory
Your statement could be true, but the way you’re presenting it lets sounds like you’re just letting the oppressors win.
Getting l9cked up by an oppressor. Whoever heard of that?
Got a loaded shotgun waiting for any pig that thinks I’m going in quietly for doing the right thing
We all should
Big talker aren’t ya
If you’re dumb enough to go into jail when fascism is in charge that’s on you
Its called having a plan and knowing what your government thinks of people like you
That’s the thing about big talkers. They always talk big.
Me to the judge: He said he was my cousin Paddy!
Me to the shooter: You lied to me! *wangs him with a skillet*
problem solved.
I will take a jury trial ;)
Good luck
it hurts you that people support this guy hehe
good
Doesn’t hurt me. I don’t support murderers
your one says other wise, my neo lib acolyte
Then you must be in quite a conundrum with who was killed here; if you want justice for the CEO by finding the killer of the CEO, you’re supporting a murderer; if you support the killer of the CEO, you’re supporting a killer.
Tough moral quandary.
Yes, all the death can be laid at the feet of one guy. What a simplistic place to live.
I’m sorry I don’t watch the news, so I have no idea who this person on my couch is, he just looked like a good guy who does good things.
Don’t let them find your Lemmy account.
What is this “Lemmy” you speak of? Never heard of it…
I do not care
username checks out
No it doesn’t. If it did, the comment would say “Shark does not care”.
Wink.
I said exactly this to my friend on the phone today.
And you don’t have to ask him why he is running. It’s perfectly legal to help a stranger in need without asking them if they broke the law. In fact, it used to be seen as the most Christian thing to do by not judging.
i bet this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect up our oligarchy and; given the democrat’s obstinacy when it came to constructive criticism during the election; americans will treat it as another nothing-burger like they did with the genocide and it’ll become yet another nail in the coffin of the american empire’s decline; besides the election, ukraine’s defeat, afghanistan withdrawal, iraqi wmd’s, etc.
this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us
This feels hyperbolic.
The state protects the status quo, including whoever has money. I wouldn’t limit it to surveillance. If we’re just talking about the US, there’s the Battle of Blair Mountain, all of COINTELPRO, Watergate (I think?), etc.
the difference is that it’s in the news and has widespread appeal.
those examples were either done surreptitiously or were only academic exercises in privacy; this is real-world application of that academic theory that has the chance of not being suppressed or ignored due to its notoriety.
yeah the democrats did it. ffs.
ukraine’s defeat
Tankie moment.
yes, it’s tankie to spell out reality in the united states.
sometime i wish this were reddit so i could do remind me next year
No it’s a tankie thing to say Ukraine lost when the war is ongoing. You just want Putin’s dictatorship to have more land.
Down with Russian imperialism.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
No it’s a tankie thing to say Ukraine lost when the war is ongoing. You just want Putin’s dictatorship to have more land.
Down with Russian imperialism.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
i want the ukrainians to exist as sovereign peoples instead of a new vassal state to the dying american empire since the people that i descend from have been trying for almost 500 years to shake off the enslavement of this same empire.
There are no proposals of Ukraine joining the United States.
Russia is the country to blame causing the problems in the region as the Kremlin is responsible for Holodomor and for the rampant corruption in Eastern Europe.
the ukrainian inexplicably want to join the american hegemony called nato on the eve of its collapse; they’re better off on their own w/o serving as a a future proxy battlefield with the collapsing united states empire.
So is this what people keep talking about when they say they see a lot of tankies in lemmy?
Cause me reading that, OP was implying the likely defeat given current trend, I did not take it as a support of Putin.
the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us
What do you think it has been used for up to this point?
it’s been done surreptitiously or academic masturbation until now
The government knows when you masturbate The government knows when you feel alone And it’s getting late and you’re sitting at home
i get that this is snark; but in case you really didn’t know: snowden proved that they had this capability circa 2008 and they’ve only gotten better at it after 15+ years.
Oh - it’s not snark… it’s a song: https://youtu.be/4zH9Zca1vRM
the corn dog ammunition belt made the american flags and feel redundant. lol
If this guy has any brains at all, he’s in Timbuktu by now.
I dunno, Mali hasn’t been doing so hot. I’d be curious what the kidnappers that catch him would do with him though
He’s definitely not up here in Canada, relaxing in my basement.
Nor mine. They’d better not waste their resources coming up here to have a look.
He could literally take a train to Georgia and just hang out lmfao
The odds of him being found fall exponentially each day
Since they know that’s where he came from, pretty sure they’re looking for him threre
How do they know?
They have video of him arriving in NYC on a bus from Atlanta.
How do you know?
Reported 2 days ago on NYC TV.
A smart lad would’ve done that to throw the cops off track. I hope he was smart.
Seems that he’s smarter than the average felon. I watch NYC TV, and the cops just announced they found something in Central Park. If he’s smart he would have ditched the gun.
Best of luck with getting cooperation from citizens at large.
All 337,522,185 of us didn’t see nothin’.
…but the cameras and AI did :(
I’m not too fussed about the AI, to be honest. It’ll just declare that it has 14,986 suspects who “definitely” did it, most of whom will just coincidentally turn out to be black.
The odds of them being able to definitively tie a face to a name in a single stroke are pretty remote. The investigation strategy will probably revolve around tracking down where he went and how he got there. If he rode a bus, they will investigate who was on that bus. Same if he took a plane. Or if he hired an Uber, or whatever. Whose credit cards were used to purchase tickets, whose cell phones were tracked in those locations at those times, etc. Wasn’t he on a rental bike? They will try to track payment methods for those rental bikes. Etc.
Even with all their manpower and spy technologies and cell phone spoofing towers and dogs and any amount of shiny badges, the cops can’t clear a solve rate for murders in the US that’s any better than 50%. So there’s a coin-toss chance this guy didn’t go out of his way to do anything right and still walks away.
the cops can’t clear a solve rate for murders in the US that’s any better than 50%.
That is averaged between the murders they don’t care about and the ones they put effort into. It isn’t thst every individual murder has a 50% chsnce of being solved.
According to an ABC article, he apparently used cash for everything. Clever dude if true
I didn’t know you could use cash for rental bikes.
All the ones in Chicago need the app in order to rent them.
Could you do it with a burner phone and load the app from a Visa gift card? Rent and place the city bike around the corner, do the deed, drop the phone (whether on accident or on purpose), take off on the bike.
Maybe pay a random stranger in cash to rent a bike for you
I really hope this doesn’t lead business to not accept cash.
I should use more cash on a daily basis to discourage this…
Turns out AI is wrong 90% of the time though
They are wasting a lot of time and money and energy on this investigation
They obviously value some lives more than others. No surprise, of course.
What lives would those be??
It’s a mystery!
lmagine them catching him, unable to field an unbiased jury, his gofundme flush with cash, prosecutors desparately trying to get him to accept a plea because they know how futile it is
They’re likely just going to execute him when they find him so as to not allow that. Say he was brandishing or something.
It would only make sense for him to turn himself in while accompanied by his lawyer after releasing a statement that he will be doing so. Even so, eventually he’s going to be alone in police custody and I’d be surprised if he survives that for long.
If they do find him, the prosecutors are going to have a hell of a time trying to weed out anyone interested in jury nullification.
Incorrect. You’re in a social media bubble.
The average person who gets chosen for jury duty somehow won’t know who this guy is despite reports on every media outlet. It blows my mind how oblivious those people can be.
In that case the jury conversation will go something like this: “I wonder why the judge won’t allow anyone to know the victim’s occupation?”
The second the jury finds out this guy was a health-insurance CEO, half of them will shrug and go “time served”.“Self-defense”
Yuuuup. Like that spike in Google searches for “did Biden drop out” or whatever during the week leading up to the election. A lot of people live with their head in the sand.
If I asked every single person I’m on a first name basis with what jury nullification was I bet a large sum of money that none of them would have an answer.
You could teach them.
That’s not the point.
It’s to demonstrate that almost no one knows what it means.
Good time for all of us to be teaching our friends then.
Now you’ve done it lol
“200 pics” yeah, sure. They don’t know shit.
The reality is: Unless he fled the country he was always going to be caught. That is the point of living in a surveillance state. It was just a matter of time.
As a thought exercise, imagine a bathroom. Ten people go in. One person flips their jacket inside out. Ten people come out. Do you suddenly lose that one person who now has a green jacket instead of a red one? No. You realize the person with a green jacket never “entered” and know something was up.
And now extend that to every single traffic camera, security camera, and so forth in the city and in the country. Because now that “bathroom” is a camera at every major exit in and out of Central Park as well as places where the shrubbery is low enough that you can hop a fence.
And yes, that is a VERY large amount of data. If only we had spent the past few decades learning to represent things as graph problems, how to use computer vision to automate recognition, and so forth.
It was obviously dramatized (and is fascinating from a production standpoint and how much effort they put in to keep the nazi from killing anyone…) but Person of Interest wasn’t some dystopic future. It was, if anything, underestimating what is already possible.
So… here is hoping that ridiculously handsome G went straight to the airport and flew to a non extradition treaty country. Probably didn’t though and is probably going to get picked up at a bus station.
Also: For all the gun nuts who think you rae going to use your closet full of AR-15s to scream “WILDCATS” and fight off the fascists or invaders or whatever? They’ll have access to those cameras too and will be able to figure out what house or cave you are hiding in and send a few drones. So… yeah
Unless he fled the country he was always going to be caught
Eh. Read up on some of the other big mysteries (stuff like The Somerton Man). Every few years someone who has made it their career/identify has some irrefutable evidence that is either refuted or determined to not be that unique. Or it has been solved for decades but nobody cared enough to make it official and the people writing books/doing talk shows benefit from a “mystery”.
And in this case? McCoy had already been arrested for a similar crime and is long dead. Nobody really cared to keep searching.
But also? We have a LOT more cameras these days and a LOT more ability to process that data without human intervention.
Also, just to make it clear: even if the shooter escaped the country, they are going to be identified (flying on a fake ID is a lot harder and you can bet all the passengers are being checked against the pictures). But it won’t be US cops that catch him (probably just as dead if he doesn’t completely disappear though).
A 24 frames a second film has 24 photos, so they have roughly 8 seconds of footage?
By all means do. I can’t wait to hear this man’s story.
And good luck getting a conviction. Jury Nullification go brrrrr
I doubt they’ll take him alive.
Yup, this is my concern. They’ll claim he resisted during their no-knock raid, and they had no choice but to execute him in his bed. And all of the body footage will be “accidentally” scrubbed, or every single officer “forgot” to turn their body cams on.
“The assassin didn’t resist” is going to be the new “Epstein didn’t kill himself.”
That moment when the Healthcare CEOs realize that no jury will convict their murderers in a country with more guns than people.
I wouldn’t rely on nullification. I instead think this guy deserves a full pardon. We pardon domestic abuse victims who kill their abusers, is this situation really so different?
There’s no one part of the system we should rely on. What I say I do so with hope in the full knowledge that we’re likely to see the corruption re-assert itself.
Imagine the gofundme campaign for this guys defense
I bet he’d be like “Nah, use it to pay for people’s health care.”
I bet he’d be like "Nah, use it to pay for
people’s health caremore assassins.”Imagine a crowdfunded CEO bounty program
I think they can just move it as a judgement as a matter of law, or whatever else rule applies. It was a pretty clear case afterall
Wouldn’t that be something? If the people collectively decided, “Nah this is fine. This was reasonable.”
I doubt it but that would be beautiful.
Could even stop before it gets that far. It’ll be difficult to convene a jury with so many candidates dismissed for saying “nah, fuck health insurance CEOs”.
Probably have 200 pictures of the back of his hood. None of them worth a damn
police are still searching for a motive as to why someone would kill Thompson.
Someone assassinates a legal serial killer, and cops are looking for a motive?
Wow, those hiring requirements that disqualify applicants if they have too high of an IQ is really working out well for the police force.
I hope they fail
Going by the title I thought I was in c/theonion for a second. Or c/nottheonion.
