• Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    And it’s admitting to the very social economic racism designed for poverty still adamant in our culture today to refer to a group of people as ‘food workers’

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        They’re trying to sound way smarter than they are. All that work with a thesaurus and yet they started their sentence with a fucking conjunction.

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        I think their argument just needs to be rephrased a bit. An English teacher would put an “awk” on that one.

        “By referring to a population as food workers, we’re reinforcing a culture of class warfare still prevalent today. Illegal immigrants will never break free of poverty in this system designed to keep them economically oppressed, but incentivized enough to keep performing the job our society needs.”

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          By referring to a population as food workers, we’re reinforcing a culture of class warfare still prevalent today.

          Indeed! We shall hence forth refer to them as sustenance craftspeople. Perhaps even alimentation artisan. That will make everything better!

          IOW, I got that I just think that the wording betrayed the ridiculousness of the argument. Not to mention an acceptance of the systemic bias against people who do this work. Fuck that. Food is good! Workers are good!

          Signed,

          A Food Worker

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      I mean, this is simply stating a fact, that about 20% of food labor are undocumented immigrants. It doesn’t mean that’s all they do or that only undocumented workers are food workers.

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        Do you assign race to that particular job and then talk about how they’ll get deported as a threat? Cuz if you do you’d be a racist.

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              Referring to people who work with food as food workers is not racist. They did not “call” illegal immigrants food workers, they said of the food workers, about 20% happen to be illegal immigrants.

              Further, it made no statement suggesting that’s all that illegal immigrants do.

              There’s no ethnic/racist meaning in saying that the food industry is in no small part upheld by illegal immigrants.

              Now you could say it’s screwed up that we’ve baked into things the assumption of a sub-legal labor class for the purpose of affordability, implicitly to skirt labor laws. However calling people who work to facilitate food “food workers” is so far away from the problem, particularly when it makes no assertion that there’s only one race doing the job nor an assertion that’s all that ethnicity does…

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                This is racism you trump guzzling racist.

                Now take this little bedtime story to help you get to sleep at night and stick it in a bag, fart in it, take a deep whiff. Cuz I ain’t going to ever delude myself as hard as you do on how to get away with your shitty behaviour.

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      Exactly, they want the labour even cheaper and without right. They want people who can’t complain. They don’t want to pay social taxes.

      And like you said, cherry on the cake if they get free labour. Mmmmm those profit margins!

      But we’ll still raise the price because nobody wanna work

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      After seeing how horrific factory farming is, I’m genuinely wondering if I’d be psychologically better off with 5 years of prison. Or 5 years of war

      I’m not even vegan, but what the fuck does that say about society? That the job that feeds you might require you to experience something so horrific, you’d prefer prison, maybe even war? …

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    Let the urban farmer flourish.

    Watch “community focused” small businesses struggle while their they “success friends” disappear so they can make a community focused on something other then capitol. Maybe they’ll become urban farmers or intersectionalize with a passed skill like sewing or smut writing.

    Get outside y’all go play chess with the old dude at the park. Go call the neighbor kid a little shit. Engage with your community.

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      Listen here, you little shit . . .

      I can feel the engagement! It tingles a little. Yeah, I’m hooked.

      I’m gonna go grow some beets in a vacant lot.

      (Snarky, but also serious. This would be a good time to get to know your neighbors and your local farmers.)

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      While I love and support urban farms, would it really be enough space to feed everyone? Google says that each person would need about 600 sqft of space to grow the food they’d need, multiplied by the millions of people in a city… I just don’t see how the numbers work.

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        That is a valid concern. I doubt all the pressure of food distribution would be only on urban farmers it would have to be a coalition of multiple food sources to support people with no capitol. Half a million people in my city would require 6887 acres to feed everyone. Sounds like we got some saving seizing to do.

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    4D Chess move: wanna stop immigration into your country? Make your country so shitty and unlivable that it’s not worth visiting let alone moving to

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    See, you’re mistaken. You are asking irrational people to use logic.

    Orange man great biznus man he will make Mexico pay tariffs and food will become cheaper. Also it will deport criminals (?) So I feel safe again.

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      And if it all fails exactly how I was warned, it is someone else’s fault, and I’m not stupid… Everything’s simply a conspiracy against me!

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    “Just trust Trump” says every Trump supporter that knows nothing of how the world works

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    Something tells me with trump in charge, they’ll leave on purpose… There will also be a lot of Americans in the next 4 years migrating to other countries too

    Mexico and Canada will have to build a wall to keep Americans out

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    Stop, stop, stop. We’re going to find this stuff out. We’re going to learn. It will be painful. It’s certainly going to be painful to watch. I just don’t want to spend another second begging the 5 year old not to touch the burner anymore.

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    Neoliberalism shitposts like this one is the reason why Trump won.

    Pro tip: relying on imported cheap labor for critical production isn’t sustainable nor does it create a local and global stable society. Especially when the world has moved from uni-polar to multi-polar.

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      Hopefully this leads to more automation in those areas, I reckon that large scale agriculture is basically going that way since long ago

      I saw a carrot harvester that basically did all the packing by itself, that was awesome

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      I agree very much with this. Price increases are always disproportional to cost increases, and when cost goes down price does not. Just convenient excuse to increase profits.

      Reminds of corporations threatening to move out if USSA adopts labour law. To where? Europe with even more strict labour law?

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    Same energy as insinuating my personal emissions and plastic habits are what will make/break the planet.

    No. This is all in the control of far more powerful groups. Why would I ruin time with family by discussing something fundamentally out of our control? Only serves to divide and no good comes of that kind of discussion.

    I’ll focus on paying bills and eeking out a basically okay life in spite of the shit that goes on.

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    Funny enough, it’ll make food more expensive, because now there’s more leverage for the worker. But, ofc, RFK wants to make field work forced labour camps for the disabled, which will most probably coat the same as prison labour - which means that ordinary labourers will be even more devalued.

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    That’s because they will not deport all of them. They will deport a few 100.000 with a lot of noise… and then not so much. Giving the farmers an even bigger boogie man to hold over these workers… effectively creating a new slave class in the US.

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      I haven’t researched this myself, so someone quash or confirm this. He’s said hes going to hit urban centers in blue states “first” (maybe only). As such, this will largely leave his buddy Greg Abbott in Texas untouched, among other places.

      It’ll be tactical and put on a show for headlines. People will suffer. Labor may be held indefinitely in prisons. But it won’t affect his friends.

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      You’re thinking by too small. They will deport a few 100,00 with a lot of noise … and then not so much as they carve out a maze of exceptions to benefit their cronies at the expense of literally everyone else