profane language is the word ‘fuck’.
this is not yelling ‘fuck’ at the top of your lungs, but more like ‘aah, fuck’, meaning why do things have to be this complicated? or, why didn’t coworker X did his job as he was supposed to? Why is this documentation not in order?
Have you ever been fired over this? reprimanded at work?
I use ‘fuck’ a lot, not to intimidate anyone, but each time something bothers me, I could as well use ‘come on!!’ but ‘fuck’ comes to me more naturally.
If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?
To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?
Yes but it was never unpaired from a provocative utterance from someone else mirroring the severity and crudeness of my own words
It’s pretty common in Australia, so long as we’re not swearing at people nobody gives a fuck. I’d say unless your manager has mentioned it to you, it’s not a huge deal.
I mask at work. At work I’m happy and helpful. I don’t cuss. I don’t get involved in drama. I don’t cause problems. Keep my head down, punch that clock, make my money. That’s the only reason I’m there.
I do my cussing at home. A place without judgement or guidelines to abide by.
I build fences. 3 out of 4 words is fuck.
1 out of 4 is fence?
I’m a professional and I conduct myself like one at work. Your coworkers have the right to work in a non-hostile environment, and believe it or not, some people consider profanity to be hostile. Plus, there are more effective ways to communicate your thoughts in a professional environment than through profanity. I’ll occasionally swear with a coworker I’m close with if we’re one-on-one, but never in a group setting. Cursing is expected - almost mandatory - in some careers such as a restaurant kitchen, or a construction site, but I don’t work in that sort of environment anymore.
My boss told me verbally “don’t call your colleague a fascist by email or anything else that leaves a record”, so that was nice of him.
If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?
To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?
Germany here. We have explicit laws protecting workers.
If the company wants to terminate your contract, then there are only a limited number of specific reasons that are allowed. And then they must observe a notice period usually (1-2 months). The worker can easily go to court against it (costs are moderate) to have it checked.
If they want to fire you immediately (all subsidiaries of foreign corporations usually want that, and most of the German big corpos too), they can suspend you from working, but you still get your pay until the end of the notice period, or you can make a termination agreement that ends the contract immediately and you get all that money (plus maybe a little more, negotiable) at once.
And there is another way: if you have severely violated your duties, then they can terminate you immediately, without paying any longer.
But it is only with very serious violations, where they can argue that it isn’t tolerable for the company to have to endure you any longer. Many such events actually go to court afterwards, so they really have to be careful to do it right.
If the violation was not so severe, they can give you an official warning, usually in writing. You can also go to court against the warning, and the court can nullify it, if it was wrongful.
If you have received a warning and it was valid and afterwards you do the same violation again, then they can also terminate you immediately. And again, you can go to court to have it checked, like above.
ITT: American HR vs the world.
Work in software project management. People swear pretty regularly. The higher up in the hierarchy you go, the more they swear. If a job gave me a warning for that I might leave because they treat their employees like children.
Also work in software. Had people swear on 300+ person meetings, vendors meetings, etc. Nobody has ever been written up to my knowledge.
1st amendment bro
Which only applies to being able to criticize the US government without persecution. It absolutely does not apply to employees of private businesses and institutions. They can fire the fuck out of your ass over your filthy fucking cum gutter of a mouth.
…has nothing to do with the OP’s question.
Bad joke?
If I’d be in trouble fr saying fuck or swearing in general, I’d be in trouble. I’m a software developer and I have to deal with shit like Microsoft products (any of them) and my own code as well. Good hing i speak enough languages to curse with variety and make it harder for people to know what I say
Well, you could start your own business where you can say what the fuck you want. Or, you could not act entitled like you think you can say whatever the fuck you want in someone else’s business. It’s up to fuckin’ you.
I’m the Forman at my metal shop… If you’re not swearing in front of customers I don’t give a fuck.
As long as you keep a cool head and pay attention to who’s in the building, I’ll let you get away with most things
Back when I worked pizza, that was the rule. But I was able to train myself, and neither the boss nor customers knew what “ОПА БЛЯТЬ!” meant when they heard it from the back of the shop lol.
-I got detention in high school after a teacher overheard a friend of mine asking me if we had homework and i said, “fuck if I know.” Worth it, lol. -I got fussed at working in retail if they heard me swear but never officially written up -at my first accounting job the controller screamed FUCK from inside her office once. Swearing was generally fine here -current job i said “fuck yeah” in a meeting with no consequence. Swearing is generally fine so long as it’s not within earshot of approximately 2 specific people.
I swear… a lot. All the time. I do attempt, at least, to be mindful of the when and where, which is working out for me so far.
Edit: reading comprehension failure, I’m usa lol
if you’re trying to make new lines it has to have 2 spaces at the end
jggrphdjrhyene proving that it works
