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I know the headline sounds funny, but remember that could kill a diabetic.
How does this keep happening? Poor quality control. Pepsi had similar earlier this year.
Same here. The magic is gone.
Sounds like a class action suit for any person that consumed the drinks while it was advertised as zero sugar
You’d have to prove you drank it before September 10, and it was from those specific batches.
Only if they suffered harm. I’m not sure that enough people will have suffered harm for it to be a class action.
Idk man. You can sue for anything anymore
Coca-Cola has voluntarily recalled 13,152 cases of Minute Maid Zero Sugar Lemonade because it discovered during an internal investigation that cans labeled as Zero Sugar contain full sugar.
Not Coke, it’s the lemonade.
Hahahahah Fuck it I’m leaving my long ass conspiracy theory centered around this breakthrough being about Coke Zero specifically and no other drinks comment I responded to someone else with.
13k cases is like 30 seconds of production 😂
You aren’t far off. I’ve been in the Anheuser Busch plant in Cartersville GA about 20 years ago and I swear one line bottled 600 a minute…. Remember thinking how it took two of our plants to keep one of theirs going. You couldn’t see the bottles they moved so fast.
Thing is though there’s around 12-24 bottles per case depending on the size of the bottles.
Our fastest filler here at work does 36,000 bottles an hour, so you definitely won’t be getting 13,000 cases in 30 seconds I can assure ya ;)
Could’ve recalled it for being Minute Maid too.
I am very tempted to complain about the state of modern journalism, but maybe we don’t have to expect better from “simpyrecipes.com”.
Still, holy clickbait, Batman.
“simpy” recipes are something else entirely.
Better journalistic integrity, weirdly.
Minute Maid is owned by Coke. That’s why the headline says Coke is pulling the drinks.
Headline could be written better, I warned my friend who’s sister is a diabetic before realizing its just the lemonade
Now you know better than to stop reading after two seconds. If you spent three more seconds reading the summary your panicked warning would have been avoided.
If I had stopped reading after 2 seconds I wouldn’t know it was the lemonade, something that should be put front and center because if I was a drinker of minute maid zero sugar lemonade and I saw “Coke recalls popular zero sugar drink”, I wouldn’t’ve bothered reading further.
Did you only read the headline and immediately tell someone not to drink cola…
or did you read the headline and summary and still tell someone not to drink cola?Make up your mind.
Anyone downvoting is just shilling for shitty news practices.
This headline was intentionally misleading. At BEST it’s meant to be vague to make you click into the article to find out what the drink is. Either way it’s shitty.
Reading comprehension is pretty tough, huh
Apparently.
I thought the main danger to diabetics was not having sugar after taking insulin.
I’m not 100%, but I’m pretty sure the issue is with restricted ability to use / produce insulin to regulate blood sugar thus leading to dangerously high levels.
Blood sugar can be too high as well.
That’s only a danger if they take too much insulin. Insulin is used by the body to make the cells absorb sugar.
Too high or too low can be dangerous, and there’s different varieties of diabetes that make one or both swings more likely/dangerous.
Sugar or high fructose corn syrup?
HFCS is sugar. Just not cane sugar. And at the end of the day, sugar is sugar and we shouldn’t be having it all the time.
Yes but I like making cheap jabs at the drink industry.
On a serious note - you’re absolutely right to avoid sugar, and I stopped drinking sweetened beverages many years ago. From what I understand though, people would develop fewer health problems if they consumed cane sugar instead of HFCS. Apparently the unbound fructose makes a difference when consuming sugar at such a high volume.
I’m afraid that HFCS and cane sugar affect your health equally.
Well that was an interesting rabbit hole. There have been a number of new studies in the past decade, and researchers are still investigating the effects of free fructose in sweeteners.
This study is fairly recent: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8188419/
This study notes how the actual amount of fructose varies from the expected amount in popular beverages: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899900714001920
Every study I read continues to point out that sweeteners with free fructose taste sweeter and have negative health effects in large quantities while stating how results are inconclusive due to excessively caloric intake. I’m still skeptical of HFCS for now.
My favorite zero calorie drink is water.
I feel bad for people’s whose stomachs get upset when drinking water, they have to turn to solutions like sugar-free drinks whether they like it or not.
As @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world astutely points out, it’s a big deal for a lot of people with dietary issues, diabetics being the most prominent.
I fucking love water
Same, but Coca-Cola releases way more dopamine in my starving brain
I have a hard time believing someone can be sick from water but artificial sweetener in water doesn’t cause that. Has to be psychosomatic.
Straight water doesn’t make me sick, but unless I’m already pretty thirsty (working hard/exercising outside in summer) and it’s full of ice, I find drinking water unpleasant.
I’ll drink water when I have to, but I’ll drink flavored/calorie free drinks because I enjoy them, thus staying far more hydrated.
No, water is really bad if you have unmedicated GERD. I am fairly certain that if I miss a day of meds, the swift intense heartburn is not psychosomatic. I don’t know why, but anything with carbonation is much less intense.
it is psychosomatic, but can still be debilitating. i knew a Navy veteran who could not drink straight water at all because while in the Navy, he had to drink several gallons of the stuff every day. as soon as he was discharged (honorably), he found he couldn’t have water without anything added to it simply because he had so much of it in the service. of course, he still has to drink water, so he carries around a bottle of flavoring
Several gallons of water a day would kill you.
FYI there is no such thing as truly “zero calorie”. Sure, we can’t use aspartame and those “0 calorie” sweeteners for energy BUT our gut microbes can metabolize those compounds into products that we can then use for energy. So one way or another you’re still taking in calories. Now do you gain more energy from straight sugar vs the sweeteners? I have no idea, I haven’t studied this in years. I just like to bring up that little bit of trivia whenever anyone brings up zero calorie drinks in conversation :)
It doesn’t really matter if aspartame and sugar have the same amount of calories when you use 1/200th as much to get the same level of sweetness.
Scared me a bit with my 1.5 average liters of coke zero a day :x I know I have issues
At least it’s coke zero, but that stuff is still not good for you. Even the acid alone is bad for your teeth.
Ever considered switching to seltzer water? I find it to be a great substitute for idle consumption.
I know you stated that you’re aware of the issue, but holy shit dude
Ya thats a fair point!
That’s a hard to believe claim. Do you have a source for it?
ya I did a lit review for my thesis a few years back, plenty of papers on microbes metabolizing these compounds, shouldn’t be hard to find.
So no, you don’t have a source
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10144565/ Here’s a good start on “NNS”/non nutritional sweeteners.
Honestly its probably not a very big impact, its more of a “its possible” sort of thing.
Its a really interesting field!
So after a little research the caloric intake might be more than 0. I feel like your original comment came across as suggesting that “0 calorie” drinks had just as many calories as sugar, which is obviously far from the truth. But this research is interesting and important, and there’s a good chance I read your first comment in bad faith. Thanks for sharing
Hah, love this. Never change buddy. You’re the best :-).
Whew good thing I drink diet Dr Pepper!
The recall was initiated on September 10…
Yay! An urgent thing that happened over a month ago! I sure am glad that people get timely notifications of these events.
Fun story, the recent meat recall (the second one) affected some salads I bought early September… we got an email long after we’d eaten them letting us know, and to call “this number” if you’d like a refund.
Sorry, I lied, it wasn’t a fun story.
I’m not quite sure how this would done in a timely-er fashion. Signage in the stores? In theory, anyone paying with plastic could have been contacted through the card company.
That would involve the manufacturer alerting the store, the store alerting all the various card companies, then the card companies alerting the customer. That’s a lot of infrastructure to keep running and to do so fast enough that the customer finds out within a day or two of the recall.
Expensive. Worthwhile given the potential to save lives or hospital stays, but you know how companies are.
This would also involve admitting all your purchase history is collected and stored in a way that is not anonymized, which I don’t think people would quite like to be explicitly told about.
I never even mentioned alerting individual customers. The publication date on the story is TODAY. We can certainly do better than that.
I understood that from your comment. I wasn’t contradicting you or challenging what you said, just wondering aloud how we might go about it and pointing out some flaws in my own point.
That said, even if this article was published the day of the recall, I imagine only a minority of the affected purchasers would ever see it. I couldn’t say I’ve ever looked at a recipes website to inform me of important consumer news.
This might possibly be the most civil, respectful misunderstanding I’ve ever seen. I appreciate it.
Par for the course with online discussions, I’d say. Always difficult to discern the tone of a comment when it’s written down. No harm done.
Cheers!
In Germany, supermarkets typically post product recalls right on the doors or over the shelves of the section that has the affected products. I guess if you bought something you might be less likely to go down that aisle again next time and come across the sign, but (barring a big empty space at the entrance) I think that’s the most reasonable place for them to be
Do you ever find there are a lot of these signs at any given time? Having them in a designated area by the entryway then maybe again by the shelf where they stock it seems like a good combination.
In my head I worry it might become overwhelming to the point no one reads them anymore. Though I suppose that could be mitigated with a large image of the recalled product, to make it easier to check at a glance without having to stop and read for a minute. I can’t remember ever seeing signage at the shops near me. I wish we had that.
Maybe I’m overthinking it and it’s a rarity to ever have more than a couple products be recalled at a single time. Can’t say I’ve put much thought into any of this before.
They’re not super common. I don’t see one every single time I go grocery shopping, though I would say typically there are maybe one or two recalls posted somewhere in the store at a time. Most I’ve seen at once is four, maybe a year or so ago, but they also keep the signs up for a few weeks so they didn’t happen all at once.
They do always have either a picture of the product or at least the name prominently placed, so you can glance at it to see whether it’s about something you might have bought.
in my experience, it is rare to see two recalls at the same time in the same store. and yes, there usually is a rather large picture of the product. standard size paper (din a4) where the top half is a picture and the bottom half a description of the recall with info as to why and which batch numbers are affected.
Ah okay, I like that implementation. Good to have it be eye-catching and not just a bunch of text. Thanks for letting me know.
Same in Belgium and the Netherlands. On the stores website too.
Well, I mean it’s not going to kill a diabetic if they consume sugar they weren’t anticipating… sure it might spike their levels higher than anticipated, but it would only cause harm long term if they didn’t monitor .
It depends how much sugar. I have type 1, and if I had 20 grams on accident, it could ruin my levels for half a day but not the end of the world. If I had 45 grams (a can of soda) or more on accident I’d probably just go to the hospital at that point. Or at least I’d be scared. Once blood sugar levels get too high it’s rough to control and you’re in a somewhat fragile state. And also you start to feel like shit the longer it goes on (dka.)
I guess I’m saying is usually no it won’t kill you but especially for type 1 people it’d probably make for a somewhat traumatic experience.
if they didn’t monitor
You’re talking about a country with a for-profit healthcare system.
Put cocaine back in it.
Check the label before you drink it, especially if you’re watching your sugar intake for medical reasons.
Umm. How would checking the label help? If the drinks were labelled correctly, there would be no reason for a recall.
I agree. The best thing to do is avoid it entirely for now. I’m guessing there are other sugar-free lemonade options. Is Crystal Light still around? I used to like that one.
I’m super fuckin curious now. As a type 1 diabetes since 12y/o, before the 2010’s the only readily available 0 sugar drink options were water and diet pop. So for idk 20 years I was raised on DP giggety
Fast forward to the first time I got coke zero from a restaurant when it first came out. I was 100% positive they were putting sugar in it and have not wavered from that unfounded conspiracy theory.
Even more so after every brand of pop, juice, energy drink after that 2010ish decade had its own zero sugar options on the market. Nothing comes even close to the flavor in coke zero. In the absolute slimmest chance this has been a day 1 fuckup they are just catching I still feel like it could be a very small amount cuz that all it takes to give body to a zero sugar drink.
My source for this belief can be found in drinks like Gatorade G2 vs GZero, or new Prime energy drinks I see everywhere now, or another good one is the oj brands who offer half the sugar options of OJ.
You drink a zero sugar drink back to back with any of these example and you will totally get what I’m saying about the empty taste of zero sugar vs the fuller less chemically tasting “low” not “zero” options lisred above.
Then look at the total carbs of the light sugar options to the full flavor all the sugar options and the one with the highest amount of sugar should be the OJ and even that is only 50% of the full flavored OJ.
Normal energy drink: 35-50g of carms compared to 6g of carbs in prime. Gatorade: 36g vs G2 is i wanna say 12ga or go further with Gatorade Fit that has a splash of juice and that is a mere 4g of carbs.
So back to coke zero. It could only take a couple grams per can to get that real coke taste in coke zero. Yes it could cause most diabetics to raise an eyebrow as to why they’re sugar readings after a coke zero are slightly higher but the reality of it is you would haven’t be on the strictest regiment diet of the same exact amount of portions, recipes and execute your insulin delivery efficiency to perfection rotating sites so the same % of injected insulin is retained for every meal and even then the difference from adding a can of coke zero with 4-8g of carb is barely going to move the needle.
For most diabetic insulin regiments they start you off on a scale of 1unit of insulin per every 12-15g of carbs consumed depending on the person’s size, age etc. Way back when they first trained me I was instructed to round to the nearest 5 and take the closest dose of insulin to match. So a single can isn’t ever going to ruin someone’s night cuz it isnt even enought carbs to round up to take 1 unit on insulin for.
Still doesn’t make me any less interested if my bat shit crazy conspiracy theory is actually true. Lol
This wasn’t about coke zero but about two batch numbers of the zero sugar version of minute maid lemon aid, in cans.
Did you ever try Pepsi One when it was around? I’m not a huge fan of colas (or sugary drinks in general), but it wasn’t bad compared to most diet sodas I’ve had.
In this case, they’re probably referring to the lot number. The affected numbers are FEB1725CNA and FEB1725CNB for Minute Maid Zero Sugar Lemonade.
If I was told to just check the label, I’d probably also assume they meant the nutrition information. In that case you’d be correct that it wouldn’t help you identify the affected drinks because they would be marked as having 0g sugar.
Ah, excellent point, thank you.
Minute Maid was awesome back in the 80s. Their fruit punch was the goat.
I think they changed the formula of their drinks. I haven’t had any in a while, but it was pretty awful when I tried a couple of them a few years ago.
Good point. Serious oops.
