Tampa Bay and Orlando are two of the largest tourist cities in the state. I’m curious to see what the honorable representatives from Disney and Universal Studios are going to say in the aftermath of this thing.
I would laugh my ass off if Disney World (or Disney Land or whatever it’s called, I’m not American) got destroyed.
Disneyland is in California, Disneyworld is in Florida.
Source: I live near Disneyland
Id wager the park would be mostly fine, Its in the center of the
panhandlelong part that extends off the continent which should be the thing we call the pandhandle so the hurricane has to cover alot of ground to cover before it reaches it in force. Most likely looking at alot of damage to window and facades, with some flooding damage.Source: I am a stranger on the internet doing guesswork and gutfeels on a natural phenomenon I’ve never experienced myself.
Edit: God damn… Disneyworld is like dead center in this hurricanes path. They’re about to get wrecked.
Disney World is in the center if the Penninsula, not the panhandle. it’s in Orlando not Tallahassee.
TIL: the panhandle in the term Florida Panhandle refers to the bit in red and not the bit in white. I will take no responsibility for this error and argue that the term is worded horribly. Its clear as day to me that this white bit is the handle of the us, hanging off its end like a dong…
I don’t think “panhandle” has a strict definition but it tends to mean a bit of a state that sticks out into what rightfully should be another state. Oklahoma’s panhandle is the most obvious example of one. West Virginia has two. Florida’s panhandle is the part that should be Alabama’s coastline.
If Disney is destroyed, the federal government will earmark a billion dollars to rebuild it.
Tear down this Magic Kingdom and Walt’s Ghost (plus an enormous traunch of taxpayer money) will see it rebuilt in three days.
She’s cute so they will back her and continue to vote for her. Florida GOP has figured this out and flexing hard. Run a cute vapid cunt and you’re good.
“God should smite the sinners!”
“Wait, no, not like that!”
Republicans: As long as it hits Democrats too…
Reminded of the aftermath of Ida, during which the wealthier districts in Mississippi and Alabama got immediate and substantive bailouts while the poorer municipalities were left to rot.
It’s happened before, it will happen again. Your proximity to power will determine the relief you receive.
They will still vote for her.
The conservative politicians will do everything they can to make sure the locals suffer as hard as possible so they can use the horrifying footage and stories for a Hail Mary marketing push.
Conservatives will play victim and pretend Dems did this to them. Their dumb bullshit will not work this time. The Dems are ready and will be campaigning with the fucking receipts.
I am truly sad that so many innocent people are being harmed by these conservative-caused climate disasters and the deadly conservative mishandling of them.
I, sadly, call bullshit. The last time the democrats were actually good at pushing back forcefully with campaign messaging was when I was still in diapers. Now add in that democratic points actually need a modicum of thought put into them to accept them, while republican points are like grade school insults and comebacks that just ‘sound good,’ and I doubt we’ll get big gains from republican-precipitated disasters.
Edit: Seriously… think about how many people believed that photo of trump wading through floodwaters. And how many others don’t even care about obviously fake images like that, choosing to have the idea that such things are normal and okay.
True. There may not be a peaceful solution to this infestation. The peace agreement between normal people and conservative shitbags has been eroded to nearly nothing at this point.
Of course there isn’t. They lost the Civil War and while y’all shoulda finished the job, they’ve been trying to get back at everyone since. The fact that there are confederate flags flown freely is insane to me, an outsider. Truly the ultimate “cuckolding” — they attempted to murder you en masse, lost, but still parade like they won, without consequence.
Way too much tolerance of the intolerant.
It won’t matter to these people how much Democrats fire back with messaging. In their proudly ignorant minds Democrats will always be liars and thieves who kept money from the poor Republican states even if the truth is staring them right in their stupid fucking faces.
Victimhood is their identity. I was reading, just yesterday, about how christians were not persecuted any more than any other non-Roman religion. But we all know the stories of christians being fed to lions. They want the mythology.
All so they can say, “Look how little the Biden administration is doing for the people of Florida!”
Literally putting life and property on the chopping block for their political posturing.
Is this another non white woman that’s a Republican? Talk about a traitor… Jesus Christ
Talk about a traitor…
To be a traitor, you had to pretend at loyalty to begin with. I don’t see anything in her background to suggest she was ever more than a stooge for the GOP.
That’s very common among Cuban ex-pats. The community is inundated in right-wing revanchism and a burning sense of entitlement and hatred. Every time a liberal US politician tries to reopen diplomatic and trade relations with Cuba, the dead-enders lash out. Every time a conservative promises more sanctions, more embargo, and a tighter siege of the island, they start prepping their boats for Bay of Pigs 2. The Cuban lobby isn’t as bad as AIPAC, but not for lack of trying.
I was all set to say that a lot of Cubans seem to be so anti communist that they’re pro fascist. But she’s not Cuban. I assumed wrongly. She was born in California.
I say we just let Florida go… Maybe make Puerto Rico a state instead… Build a wall to keep Floridians out
PR doesn’t have a majority in favor of statehood yet.
Maybe DC then
She should go stand on the beach and try and stop it with thoughts and prayers
Agreed. She should put on her best “American flag” or “Make America Great Again” bikini/swimsuit and livestream herself praying the storm away.
And guess who they will blame when dozens of registered voters die.
What if this time instead of being decent, we just don’t send aid. Too long we have let these voters elect these tools without consequences. They don’t want aid? We shouldn’t send it. Helping regardless sends the exact wrong message.
Because what the fuck, innocent people will die? People that didn’t vote for whoever this dumb sack of shit is?
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It’s coastal Florida, hurricanes are inevitable.
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They shouldn’t need emergency help because they should have evacuated. Evacuation orders were issued Monday.
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Why should the rest of us subsidize their poor choice of living location? If you cannot afford adequate insurance, then you shouldn’t live there. The cost of insurance should reflect the actual risk and not rely on taxpayer subsidy.
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We have helped in the past, and it hasn’t fixed the fundamental problem - see point 1.
It’s different to send aid to Asheville, hurricanes aren’t really expected to destroy elevated inland town. Coastal Florida should expect this weather.
Poor planning on their part shouldn’t constitute an emergency for the rest of us.
You need to shut the fuck up and sit down.
Is it considered tacky to keep the plywood up year-round?
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Because in my version of America we look out for each other, even the assholes who don’t subscribe. Helping regardless sends exactly the right message.
People can and do come around (especially young people) when they see you as the helpers rather than the rival tribe. One of the biggest stumbling blocks for Democrats - particularly in a state like Florida or Michigan or Pennsylvania - is how often they see politicians shower the state with attention in the six weeks before election day and then forget it exists as soon as the voting is done.
Another is the way both parties seem slavishly loyal to the biggest corporate interests in the respective states, despite groundswells of opposition to their gestapo-like municipal controls. The history of Disney in Florida is straight out of the most vile dystopian libertarian bullshit imaginable, straight down to Disney security officer collectable “challenge coins”.
This is refreshing to read. I wish the rest of the US thought the same
About half of us do. But that’s not enough.
This is refreshing to read.
You said it. I’ve lived in Florida my whole life, and I’m situated in the current path of Milton (on the east coast). Lemmy, and this thread in particular, is peppered with comments rooting for an entire state’s worth of countrymen to die in an imminent natural disaster, or be excommunicated, because some portion of the electorate is too ignorant or brainwashed to vote in their own best interests. It’s gross and un-American.
Good luck, countryman. We’re with you.
Let’s compromise on aid… Brought To You By Joe Biden!
One of the savvier moves Trump made was to show up at every disaster scene with a campaign bus and a t-shirt cannon. He made a spectacle of every relief effort. He personally put his name on the COVID tax-relief checks. Consequently, he continues to be one of the most popular candidates to run for President.
Meanwhile, Biden took office in 2021 and immediately started compromising with his rightward flank. He billed everything as “Bipartisan”. He traded away child tax credit extensions and Medicaid expansion to Senators in his own party as a condition for bailing out Intel and sending more weapons to Israel. Miserable politics. Deplorable approval ratings. He went the full Lyndon Johnson at the end, dropping out without even trying for reelection.
Because we have ethics and they don’t. Also because a lot of innocent people would die, not just republicans. I’m a queer socialist in a red state as are many of my friends. It sucks but it’s where we’re from and it’s not the easiest thing for everyone to find a job in a better area.
I kinda get the accelerationist-like game plan conservatives are doing here (voting down funding and then blaming the other political side), but it’s just so evil considering that alternative options would actually help people and achieve the same effect.
Vote for relief funding, maybe do some “helping” for press photos to look good, spend some billionaire money that conservatives aren’t lacking for fundraisers then boast about it, calling democrats and current administration ineffective. Same result but it might save lives with the added bonus that nobody can call you out on lying.
Is it really so hard to do some good every once in a while? It really feels like conservatives are allergic to morally good deeds.
It’s way easier to sit in your office and screeeeeeeee.
That’s their platform, they obstruct anything that might help unless the democrats accept moving rightward in the process. They’ve been doing it since Obama at least
They have been doing it for 50 years, it has just expanded and grown increasingly sinister:
First, the Two Santas strategy dictates, when Republicans control the White House they must spend money like a drunken Santa and cut taxes to run up the U.S. debt as far and as fast as possible.
This produces three results: it stimulates the economy thus making people think that the GOP can produce a good economy; it raises the debt dramatically; and it makes people think that Republicans are the “tax-cut Santa Clauses.”
Second, when a Democrat is in the White House, Republicans must scream about the national debt as loudly and frantically as possible, freaking out about how “our children will have to pay for it!” and “we have to cut spending to solve the crisis!” Shut down the government, crash the stock market, and damage US credibility around the world if necessary to stop Democrats from spending money.
https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/thom-hartmann/two-santas-strategy-gop-used-economic-scam-manipulate-americans-40-years/Wreck the government, then point to the Democrats and loudly claim everything is all their fault…
Same shit here in the UK, Fuckers spent 20 billion on no one even knows what the week before they got kicked out.
A “no” vote is a siege, framing a hurricane’s destruction as a wrathful act of god sent to punish a lesson into Pinocchio is accelerationist
That’s quite a sentence
Carlo Collodi’s self-loathing is quite a force
They operate on fear and hate. Helping people won’t activate either of those.
This right here. If people are outside of a perpetual state of fear, they might get the room to think and question how things are done and who gets which share of the wealth.
Either the money won’t come and she’ll blame Democrats for that, or the money will come despite her and she’ll take credit for it.
As is tradition.
“Either the money won’t come and she’ll blame Democrats”
already happening, she must think that the wasted lives will be worth the bad democrats press she squeezes out of it
it’s the natural way of things for republican politicians
I mean it seems to work for them so it’s unlikely they’ll stop
That’s my rep! 🏳
Look, I agree its bad but let’s not blow it out of proportions here. It is not the “world’s strongest hurricane” it is only the 4th world’s strongest hurricane. Major difference.
It’s gonna be the 1st strongest hurricane to hit the same area less than 14 days from the last hurricane.
it is only the 4th world’s strongest hurricane
So far
I detect a distinct hint of sarcasm.
The familiar scent of facetiousness?
