What if this time instead of being decent, we just don’t send aid. Too long we have let these voters elect these tools without consequences. They don’t want aid? We shouldn’t send it. Helping regardless sends the exact wrong message.
Because we have ethics and they don’t. Also because a lot of innocent people would die, not just republicans. I’m a queer socialist in a red state as are many of my friends. It sucks but it’s where we’re from and it’s not the easiest thing for everyone to find a job in a better area.
Because in my version of America we look out for each other, even the assholes who don’t subscribe. Helping regardless sends exactly the right message.
People can and do come around (especially young people) when they see you as the helpers rather than the rival tribe. One of the biggest stumbling blocks for Democrats - particularly in a state like Florida or Michigan or Pennsylvania - is how often they see politicians shower the state with attention in the six weeks before election day and then forget it exists as soon as the voting is done.
Another is the way both parties seem slavishly loyal to the biggest corporate interests in the respective states, despite groundswells of opposition to their gestapo-like municipal controls. The history of Disney in Florida is straight out of the most vile dystopian libertarian bullshit imaginable, straight down to Disney security officer collectable “challenge coins”.
You said it. I’ve lived in Florida my whole life, and I’m situated in the current path of Milton (on the east coast). Lemmy, and this thread in particular, is peppered with comments rooting for an entire state’s worth of countrymen to die in an imminent natural disaster, or be excommunicated, because some portion of the electorate is too ignorant or brainwashed to vote in their own best interests. It’s gross and un-American.
They shouldn’t need emergency help because they should have evacuated. Evacuation orders were issued Monday.
Why should the rest of us subsidize their poor choice of living location? If you cannot afford adequate insurance, then you shouldn’t live there. The cost of insurance should reflect the actual risk and not rely on taxpayer subsidy.
We have helped in the past, and it hasn’t fixed the fundamental problem - see point 1.
It’s different to send aid to Asheville, hurricanes aren’t really expected to destroy elevated inland town. Coastal Florida should expect this weather.
Poor planning on their part shouldn’t constitute an emergency for the rest of us.
One of the savvier moves Trump made was to show up at every disaster scene with a campaign bus and a t-shirt cannon. He made a spectacle of every relief effort. He personally put his name on the COVID tax-relief checks. Consequently, he continues to be one of the most popular candidates to run for President.
Meanwhile, Biden took office in 2021 and immediately started compromising with his rightward flank. He billed everything as “Bipartisan”. He traded away child tax credit extensions and Medicaid expansion to Senators in his own party as a condition for bailing out Intel and sending more weapons to Israel. Miserable politics. Deplorable approval ratings. He went the full Lyndon Johnson at the end, dropping out without even trying for reelection.
What if this time instead of being decent, we just don’t send aid. Too long we have let these voters elect these tools without consequences. They don’t want aid? We shouldn’t send it. Helping regardless sends the exact wrong message.
Because we have ethics and they don’t. Also because a lot of innocent people would die, not just republicans. I’m a queer socialist in a red state as are many of my friends. It sucks but it’s where we’re from and it’s not the easiest thing for everyone to find a job in a better area.
Because in my version of America we look out for each other, even the assholes who don’t subscribe. Helping regardless sends exactly the right message.
People can and do come around (especially young people) when they see you as the helpers rather than the rival tribe. One of the biggest stumbling blocks for Democrats - particularly in a state like Florida or Michigan or Pennsylvania - is how often they see politicians shower the state with attention in the six weeks before election day and then forget it exists as soon as the voting is done.
Another is the way both parties seem slavishly loyal to the biggest corporate interests in the respective states, despite groundswells of opposition to their gestapo-like municipal controls. The history of Disney in Florida is straight out of the most vile dystopian libertarian bullshit imaginable, straight down to Disney security officer collectable “challenge coins”.
This is refreshing to read. I wish the rest of the US thought the same
You said it. I’ve lived in Florida my whole life, and I’m situated in the current path of Milton (on the east coast). Lemmy, and this thread in particular, is peppered with comments rooting for an entire state’s worth of countrymen to die in an imminent natural disaster, or be excommunicated, because some portion of the electorate is too ignorant or brainwashed to vote in their own best interests. It’s gross and un-American.
Good luck, countryman. We’re with you.
About half of us do. But that’s not enough.
Because what the fuck, innocent people will die? People that didn’t vote for whoever this dumb sack of shit is?
It’s coastal Florida, hurricanes are inevitable.
They shouldn’t need emergency help because they should have evacuated. Evacuation orders were issued Monday.
Why should the rest of us subsidize their poor choice of living location? If you cannot afford adequate insurance, then you shouldn’t live there. The cost of insurance should reflect the actual risk and not rely on taxpayer subsidy.
We have helped in the past, and it hasn’t fixed the fundamental problem - see point 1.
It’s different to send aid to Asheville, hurricanes aren’t really expected to destroy elevated inland town. Coastal Florida should expect this weather.
Poor planning on their part shouldn’t constitute an emergency for the rest of us.
You need to shut the fuck up and sit down.
Is it considered tacky to keep the plywood up year-round?
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One of the savvier moves Trump made was to show up at every disaster scene with a campaign bus and a t-shirt cannon. He made a spectacle of every relief effort. He personally put his name on the COVID tax-relief checks. Consequently, he continues to be one of the most popular candidates to run for President.
Meanwhile, Biden took office in 2021 and immediately started compromising with his rightward flank. He billed everything as “Bipartisan”. He traded away child tax credit extensions and Medicaid expansion to Senators in his own party as a condition for bailing out Intel and sending more weapons to Israel. Miserable politics. Deplorable approval ratings. He went the full Lyndon Johnson at the end, dropping out without even trying for reelection.