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    I think they’re shocked when people don’t believe the shit they’re trying to peddle. Trump more so because he thinks he’s the best salesman.

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    They most likely wake up thinking that they’re doing the world a favor. I truly think they’re incapable of having any morality or respect for anyone. That being said, I’m sure they sleep fine at night too.

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    The only thing they care about is power over others.

    They literally have never cared about anything else.

    Racism, misogyny, homophobia, and so on. It’s all rooted in seeking power over others. They need others to be able to shame to make themselves feel big.

    Rape is also about power. Shocker that Trump is a convicted fucking rapist.

    It’s about power and control and nothing the fuck else. They don’t give a single flying fuck about anything else in life at all, and never have.


    When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.

    -Frank Herbert, Children of Dune

    Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

    -Jean-Paul Sartre


    I mean, Trump is actually delusional because he was taught by his father and Roy Cohn to never, ever admit defeat and that things like getting old or becoming ill are “weakness.” That’s why a 72-year-old Trump called himself a “young, vibrant man.” He genuinely thinks he is young. Admitting he is a fragile old man would literally result in total narcissistic collapse. Just like his father Fred Trump before him, he will slip into dementia while fully believing he is special and will live forever and no one is as special or as perfect as him. And just like Fred Trump, his family is taking advantage of him while it is happening. Couldn’t happen to anyone more deserving honestly.

    Everyone who is like “but this is elder abuse!” Yeah, so a fitting punishment for someone who committed elder abuse to his own fucking father.

    • yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml
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      Shocker that Trump is a convicted fucking rapist

      I’ve been living under a rock - are you referring to Trump’s civil case against E. Jean Carroll or is there a criminal case out there that’s just not showing up on the first page of search results?

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        are you referring to Trump’s civil case against E. Jean Carroll

        Yep.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

        “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

        He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

        Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”

        Probably a step too far to say “convicted” (since that implies criminal court) but I don’t particularly feel bad when I’m dealing with people who lie as easily as they fucking breathe.

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          That WaPo article was one of the top search results - thanks for clarifying. I unplugged from the news after the last election, so now I’m playing catch-up.

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    According to Buttigieg they are waking up thinking “Oh shit I don’t want people talking about that… what other fucked-up shit can I spew to distract the rubes?”

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    No. They wake up in the morning and say “Kamala and Tim wake up in the morning and say I am a really messed up human being.”

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    There are two kinds of right-wing politicians. Grifters who will say and do anything for personal gain, and suckers who have come to believe it. Vance is just a grifter, make no mistake. And maybe at one point Trump built his empire through grift - he was a Republican in 1987, Independence Party in 1999, a Democrat in 2001, Republican again in 2009. But at this point Trump’s narcissism has led him to fall for his own grift, he does believe it.

    You can actually tell with Trump that the one issue he doesn’t really care about at all but has to pander to his base with is abortion. And when you see how he flounders when asked about Roe v Wade, that gives you a baseline to compare to all the other shit that comes out of his mouth that he’s dead serious about.

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    I think they probably wake up thinking exclusively about how to increase their net worth, through politics and marketing, at the expense of low information voters.

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      Vance, sure, but Trump? He obviously doesn’t think about that kind of shit or is too fuck-stupid to make good decisions because he would be more wealthy than he is now if he hadn’t had a real estate career and just put that money from his family in the market with a professional pulling the strings. He is literally currently shitting the bed with obscenely racist conspiracy shit that is a major turn off to middle of the road voters because he wants to bang the woman whispering them in his ear.

      If there’s one thing racists don’t want, it’s to be able to be called a racist and have that be true. This is a step too far for even some racists. Because now they can’t hide behind the dogwhistles and they don’t want people in their community calling them racists.

      Trump’s ego was and is too big to be able to not take the bait that Harris laid down for him. That’s fucking stupid and not indicative of having any kind of fucking plan (or even the concept of one).

      That’s how fuckstupid Trump is and that’s why I think this is giving him way too much credit. It’s giving exactly the right amount of credit to Vance.

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        I don’t truly in my heart of hearts believe that selling your soul to the devil is possible. The logical Christianity in me says that anyone who would offer to sell their souls is already likely going to hell and so the devil has no need to purchase, and that is further tempered by the idea that All souls are the property of God and you can’t sell something you don’t own.

        That being said, if I had to pick one person on this planet who I had to testify before a grand jury that I believed they had sold their souls to the devil I would pick Donald J Trump.

        The man has no skills. He didn’t even write his book The art of the deal. He was born into wealth but many people are born into wealth and fall into poverty and yet somehow despite an entire lifetime of financial ineptitude he is still wealthy.

        He has done so much shady shit that any person who did not have the protection of a dark force would be in prison right now for and he is currently under indictment for several Grand felonies and he still running for president and still has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning.

        He has 35% of American voters believing in him. Nearly 100 million people willing to throw their once every 4 years chance for deciding the fate of America to him.

        His wife is a model and even though he’s cheated on her credibly with a pornstar, Stormy Daniels, and had a lawyer pay her off with election funds, she has not divorced him.

        If Donald J Trump is not the servant of Satan, signed and bound in an eternal contract, then the fact that he exists is a scathing indictment of the flaws of modern capitalism and why the whole system should be burnt to the ground.

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      I’m going to keep saying this until it sticks. The most profitable and valuable thing that human beings have ever discovered or created is information disparity.

      Everyone basically knows the phrase that knowledge is power, but very few people know how to capitalize on that power.

      The way that you capitalize on the power of knowledge is through information disparity.

      Say for instance, you are at a flea market. You see a very good quality copy of action comics number one with Superman on the cover. You ask the seller how much they want for it and they say oh those are my sons old comics, I’ll sell you the whole box for $5.

      Anyone who knows anything about valuable stuff knows that action comics number one is worth it the minimum a million dollars in decent condition.

      Now you know that for $5 you can get a million dollars. That is how knowledge is power. That is how information disparity works.

      Find ways that you can use information disparity in your favor (without bilking kindly old ladies out of million dollar antiques preferably) and you too will find yourself far more successful than your actual skills and abilities would otherwise qualify you for.

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    Former President Donald J Trump has more important things on his mind when he wakes up. Like saving the economy, securing the borders, and hoping his bladder holds out while playing his daily game of hunt the mushroom.