• Hegar@fedia.io
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      5 days ago

      per 538, the last two polls of “adults” (not likely voters or registered voters) showed trump support around 40%

      This feels to me like the best metric to judge ‘right wing’ by.

      Voting for right wingers or being a Republican is not quite the same as being right wing - many people register and vote strategically. My grandparents in Alaska were left wingers who knew Democrats didn’t stand a chance. I’m sure there are plenty of right wingers registered as Dems here in the PNW. Voting can also be about identity more than ideals - I’ve known Republicans who have mostly leftish ideals as long as you don’t call them that.

      But saying you personally support trump feels more unambiguously right wing to me. I’ve heard plenty of polls over the years putting trump’s support at around 30-40%, so 40% right wing sounds believable to me.

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        Also, I acknowledge this is speculation, but I would guess that a significant portion of the undecided people in those polls are conservatives who can’t stomach Trump and will never vote democrat. So it’s almost certainly more than 40% imo.

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      Your data does not logically lead to your conclusion, because the polls cited naturally bifurcated the responses into two (or three) camps.

      It’s like if I did a poll asking: “what is your favorite color, purple or yellow?” and then said this proves that 50% of respondents’ favorite color is purple. We are discounting the opinions of orange and green lovers.

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        Your data does not logically lead to your conclusion, because the polls cited naturally bifurcated the responses into two (or three) camps.

        are you denying that trump supporters would identify as “ conservative“? Also “undecided” is certainly a catch-all option for people who don’t want to vote for Trump or Harris.

        It’s like if I did a poll asking: “what is your favorite color, purple or yellow?” and then said this proves that 50% of respondents’ favorite color is purple. We are discounting the opinions of orange and green lovers.

        sorry but that’s an awful analogy, color preference does not follow a rough spectrum as political ideology does. And again, in your analogy, the orange and green lovers could have chosen undecided.

        If you have better data, by all means show it. The polls I linked are certainly more accurate than the person above citing the 2020 election and that only 22% of the US voted for Trump. That is a wildly misleading representation of US demographics.

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      edit 2: for whoever downvoted, I would love to hear why.

      Probably because you told/showed them what they don’t want to hear.