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Democracy is absolutely possible, and preferable to every other form of governing we know of.
Perfect democracy however is hard, and depends on how you define democracy.
In other words, the headline is bullshit, and at best an attempt at whataboutism. It’s so bad in fact I won’t even bother reading the uninformed opinion behind it.
I have no idea how this is an attempt at whataboutism lol. This video deals with the mathematical definition of a perfect election (or democracy, however you word it) thing that you are talking about. It’s a well produced explanation of Arrow’s impossibility theorem. That’s it. No one’s saying that we should move away from democracy or whatever lmao.
Read my edit, the video is a waste of time. That a mathematically accurate democracy is impossible is obvious. Just by the fact that no democracy has 100% voter participation. And forcing the vote makes it prone to errors too. This is a no-brainer, and completely irrelevant.
It’s also a strawman, argument, as nobody ever claimed that democracies are mathematically accurate.
Also, this video delves into which family of voting systems can be the closest to a perfect democracy.
That’s an interesting theme, the they should have made a headline that reflects that instead.
I’m guessing however, that it’s ONLY about the form of voting, where removing first past the post alone, will make you achieve about 90% of the optimal democratic result.
The countries considered the best democracies in the world, with way above 90% score, all have traditional majority voting systems, and none of the fancy systems that have become popular to debate, especially in countries with first past the post systems, muddying the debate, confusing people, and ultimately preventing improving their democracies to something that actually works.
This may be of scholarly interest, but is mostly irrelevant to democracies that want to improve.
It’s clickbait. They do this because it brings in more income. I don’t resent them for it. Flying what they can to make sure more people watch it seems fair to me v
Democracy is absolutely possible, and preferable to every other form of governing we know of.
Perfect democracy however is hard, and depends on how you define democracy.
In other words, the headline is bullshit, and at best an attempt at whataboutism. It’s so bad in fact I won’t even bother reading the uninformed opinion behind it.
I have no idea how this is an attempt at whataboutism lol. This video deals with the mathematical definition of a perfect election (or democracy, however you word it) thing that you are talking about. It’s a well produced explanation of Arrow’s impossibility theorem. That’s it. No one’s saying that we should move away from democracy or whatever lmao.
Read my edit, the video is a waste of time. That a mathematically accurate democracy is impossible is obvious. Just by the fact that no democracy has 100% voter participation. And forcing the vote makes it prone to errors too. This is a no-brainer, and completely irrelevant.
It’s also a strawman, argument, as nobody ever claimed that democracies are mathematically accurate.
They have the same approach to life: if it can’t be perfect (heaven) Imma make it a living hell for the non-elect
That’s not how scientific proofs work. Also, this video delves into which family of voting systems can be the closest to a perfect democracy.
It is relevant as we should be considering ways to move away from plurality voting, which sucks.
Huh? Haven’t you ever seen mathematical proofs in your life? Why should proofs always be about disproving something? What are you talking about here?
That’s an interesting theme, the they should have made a headline that reflects that instead.
I’m guessing however, that it’s ONLY about the form of voting, where removing first past the post alone, will make you achieve about 90% of the optimal democratic result.
The countries considered the best democracies in the world, with way above 90% score, all have traditional majority voting systems, and none of the fancy systems that have become popular to debate, especially in countries with first past the post systems, muddying the debate, confusing people, and ultimately preventing improving their democracies to something that actually works.
This may be of scholarly interest, but is mostly irrelevant to democracies that want to improve.
While I agree with you, the video is worth watching, it’s about voting systems.
Maybe, but then they should have made a headline that describes what it’s really about instead of a completely bullshit headline.
Yep, the headline sucks.
It’s clickbait. They do this because it brings in more income. I don’t resent them for it. Flying what they can to make sure more people watch it seems fair to me v