• JonEFive@midwest.social
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        2 months ago

        Well yeah, but that’s a pretty broad spectrum. Giving up by not participating at all is a higher degree of apathy than “giving up” by realistically evaluating your situation and recognizing that participating in a deeply flawed system will still have a chance of moving the needle in the direction you want it to go, or at least stopping it from moving the other direction.

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          2 months ago

          Right, so I wouldn’t equivocate students protesting staunch support for a genocide as ‘giving up’. These are specifically people trying to move the needle of a deeply flawed system.

          To quote old song, they’re ‘young people speaking their minds getting so much resistance from behind.’

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          2 months ago

          by realistically evaluating your situation

          Your only acceptable measure of that is if I vote for Biden which makes me unable to realistically evaluate my situation by definition. There’s no point in making this argument. We aren’t going to see things the same way. One of us has to compromise. If you can’t see it’s moderates and liberals turn to make some serious and material compromises leftwards then you never will.