LexisNexis, which generates consumer risk profiles for the insurers, knew about every trip G.M. drivers had taken in their cars, including when they sped, braked too hard or accelerated rapidly.
This is one of the reasons I never want a car with it’s own internet connection. I’ll stick to plugging in my phone, where I’m very stingy with which apps even get location data, much less the “physical activity history” permission which allows this kind of continuous tracking (and which is usually needed because it uses Google’s algorithms / possibly neural nets to guess whether you’re driving or walking based on accelerometer / gyro / gps / magnetometer sensor fusion).
I agree it should be codified, but have no hope that our fascist leaning lawmakers won’t gladly accept $$ from insurance companies and automakers to do what they want to do anyways.
The other side of that coin is, if we all read the bullshit extended legalise in every licence/privacy agreement for everything we’ve ever used, we’d never do anything else but read them.
Besides which, it’s not like there’s a choice aside from accepting the agreement or not using the thing. Alternatives? All have similar agreements attached.
Basically, this is just a symptom of how much “better” modern life is. But hey, at least we don’t need to worry about lions eating us quite so much.
What’s the point of reading them? I know there’s a lot I disagree with but I also know i can’t see before buying, I can’t do anything about it, nor are there realistically other choices. All modern cars do it. For any place with any consumer protection, they should be unenforceable, but I’m in the US so have to settle for there’s nothing I can do about it
These are just legal cover, so they can say “see, he agreed,according to our definition”. It doesn’t change what they are doing or whether they would have already
Yep, all cars connected so you can pay $20/month for remote start and things like this. The only way to disable cellular connection in the car is to unplug the cell antenna from the module. You have to dig the information online to find where is the module and have to disassemble the dash to do so maybe? But it’s the only way. Even if you don’t pay, the connection will still work and manufacturer receives all info.
Welp, time to disable OnStar…
A lot of car makers use a cellular connection collect this data. You need to disable that too, as well as any apps used to access car features.
Your cell phone provider could likely deliver this same data as well.
The right answer is to make it illegal to collect, except for a small amount stored on-vehicle for crash analysis.
This is one of the reasons I never want a car with it’s own internet connection. I’ll stick to plugging in my phone, where I’m very stingy with which apps even get location data, much less the “physical activity history” permission which allows this kind of continuous tracking (and which is usually needed because it uses Google’s algorithms / possibly neural nets to guess whether you’re driving or walking based on accelerometer / gyro / gps / magnetometer sensor fusion).
I agree it should be codified, but have no hope that our fascist leaning lawmakers won’t gladly accept $$ from insurance companies and automakers to do what they want to do anyways.
We’re headed rapidly toward a social credit system, but run by our corporate overlords instead of government. To quote The Stupendium:
We’re basically already there with credit scores.
Insert southpark centipede meme here.
The other side of that coin is, if we all read the bullshit extended legalise in every licence/privacy agreement for everything we’ve ever used, we’d never do anything else but read them.
Besides which, it’s not like there’s a choice aside from accepting the agreement or not using the thing. Alternatives? All have similar agreements attached.
Basically, this is just a symptom of how much “better” modern life is. But hey, at least we don’t need to worry about lions eating us quite so much.
What’s the point of reading them? I know there’s a lot I disagree with but I also know i can’t see before buying, I can’t do anything about it, nor are there realistically other choices. All modern cars do it. For any place with any consumer protection, they should be unenforceable, but I’m in the US so have to settle for there’s nothing I can do about it
These are just legal cover, so they can say “see, he agreed,according to our definition”. It doesn’t change what they are doing or whether they would have already
The song is from the perspective of the company, not the consumer.
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Someone didn’t read the line item in the EULA.
It’s OK. I crossed it out with a marker on the screen before clicking agree.
It only impossible if you don’t try
Reach out to your reps
The location tracking on my phone is in no way precise enough to determine this info.
Lol, that’s cute that you think that.
You’ve never had the location or direction be incorrect in Google Maps?
Google Maps != carrier tracking. Your phone is perfectly capable of gathering this data using its accelerometer plus GPS and cell tower positioning.
Maybe your phone, but the insurance company’s app lives on a relative’s phone, and it can determine the same things mentioned in the article.
I miss my Nokia 3210 too.
Yep, all cars connected so you can pay $20/month for remote start and things like this. The only way to disable cellular connection in the car is to unplug the cell antenna from the module. You have to dig the information online to find where is the module and have to disassemble the dash to do so maybe? But it’s the only way. Even if you don’t pay, the connection will still work and manufacturer receives all info.