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That’s the opposite of libertarian. The “Don’t tread on me” snake flag is Libertarian. And this has a killdozer on top of the snake. The imagery and wording is exactly the opposite.
It’s the opposite of what libertarians claim to be, but 100% aligned with the direction libertarianism would actually take.
The Silver Legion, one of the first groups to classify themselves as libertarian, in the contemporary sense, as opposed to libertarian-X, were supporters of Fascism. So, it is in the DNA. Claiming one thing, while working for the opposite, is just a facet of fascism.
The snake flag is supposed to be libertarian. It hasn’t been for decades.
Not sheading any tears for a MAGAT that got popped attending a fascist wanna be dictators rally.
i dont care
Killdozer?
Isreal likes to use these to plow in Palestinians in the West Bank. It’s highly effective.
This is about the killdozer, it has nothing to do with isreal.
I didn’t say this has anything to do with Israel. I just made a point that “killdozers” are good at treading on undesirables.
Linguistically expansive
It should be everyones constitutional right to own tanks and artillery. What if a bad guy with a homebuilt tank comes along?
Obviously, we need to arm teachers with TOW missiles.
“that there out back is my state approved 5 incher from a decommissioned deee-stroyer. The thought o’ one shot every six secn’ds keeps that neighbor kid with a YEW-kranian salvaged tee-80 on his own property line.”
Spoken with a drawl, as indicated
Keep going, I’m almost there
Let’s get some little Power Wheels size ones so children can blast their classmates.
Inches Matter!
„Tread on them“ aka the Tiananmen solution. Sounds like another stable genius
Go back and watch the video. Tank Driver went out of his way to avoid running Tank Man down.
Wish more American beat cops would have shown the restraint of that Chinese tank commander.
wow we have one of these eh
It’s not just about tank man
Yes…but the day before was the actual incident, where they ran over dozens of citizens and covered the streets in blood. The guy who stood up to the tanks just happened to be there as they were leaving, and knew cameras were on them.
Dude… That is the killdozer… By tread on them he means the bullshit government officials of the town that were fucking him over.
I don’t give a fuck what they think. They could have lowered the temperature after they started an insurrection, but they chose to double down. Now they are mad about the mere idea of someone shooting back?
Bullies generally hate when people fight back
Nazi peon who took bullet intended for Nazi leader turns out to be a Nazi!
Who could have seen that coming?!
If only we could find a way to make them fight each other, that’s how Nazis always eventually end up but only after killing everyone else.
Gunman was a republican, so that tracks.
Unsure if drinking-the-Nazi-koolaid type of republic, or registered-R-just-to-fuck-with-their-primaries type of republican. Should find out soon.
If it wasn’t the actual office of POTUS, I’d be completely unsurprised and slightly bemused to find the same bumbling paper trail they used for Stormy Daniels
No way in hell was this a real attempt but we’ll be hearing about it every day forever now
I mean, to be fair, the Nazis killed a lot of Nazis. They really just like killing people. Kind of what they were known for, and probably what they will keep doing.
It’s a rather unhealthy mindset these creatures have.
Say what you will about Hitler, but at least he killed Hitler
He also had a cat, that I can find no historical evidence that he ever mistreated.
…wait, why am I defending hitler ???
Yeah, but he also killed the guy who killed Hitler. Not cool. That guy was a hero.
Does every single human need to be put into neat little categories without any grey room at all? It’s always good vs evil! Yeah! Exactly how life works! No complexity! 🙃
I’m a Bernie supporter. Pretty liberal. I wish no one died, the shooter included. I hate Trump, but stop cheering. Why are we celebrating the end of our species? We’re all human. It’s someone’s son, or brother, or family, or friend.
#ScreamingIntoTheVoid
Where were the calls from the right to “lower the temperature” after their insurrection? In case you have not been paying attention, they have doubled and tripped down on that same big lie. Now they are putting pieces into place to do it again.
They have been fucking around calling for violence and now they are running like cowards the microsecond they think it’s not going to be one sided.
Screaming into the void that people are being SO MEAN to a sack of shit whose pandemic mismanagement killed who knows how many.
At LEAST 700,000.
You need to touch some grass bro. Lemmy is roleplay, there’s a lot of people outside with many different opinions and perspectives. Lemmy is not a slice of the population, it’s a very biased crowd.
It’s not going to matter what the shooter’s politics were. Desperate Never Trumper, deranged libertarian kook, the antifa boogeyman made flesh, he’s the “not us” in the fascist binary that everyone gets lumped into. They will keep insisting it’s the Democrats and liberals who caused it, because those are their catch-all terms for anyone who is not a fascist.
It seems like you wrote your comment thinking that the post was about the shooter, when it was about the person that got shot.
Yeah well, we’re not losing anything of value there either.
Yeah, and it seems like most people replying to the post thought the same thing. The reading comprehension of users on Lemmy is worrying, sometimes.
This wasnt the shooter. This page is of the bystander who died. He was a fire chief.
This post isn’t about the shooter’s politics. It’s about the bystander that took the bullet intended for Trump.
Reading the post before commenting helps to not make comments like this.
I thought I did read it. Comprehension is another matter. I think I’m on doom scroll autopilot since yesterday. I’m… just really fucking drained tbh
You’re far from the only one. Hang in there.
I hear what you’re saying.
Can always count on SatansMaggotyCumFart to be an empathetic, calming presence in the chat
No shame in sitting things out for a bit.
Might even be beneficial. I’m trying to get back into my town before the sun goes down to hang out near our lake for at least an hour to decompress without any screens
That sounds like a fantastic plan. Enjoy yourself.
Don’t worry about it. This is the internet in an election year, and you’re doing great.
I think it applies equally, the fallen victims will be held up and honored no matter what they had done, the shooter will be an evil antifa devil no matter who he was, and Trump will be the barely escaped Messiah no matter if this was a lone wolf attempt or a conspiracy
Who are the “lower the temperature” crowd?
The ones that have been shouting to turn up the heat for the last four years.
Oil execs?
Fascistic white supremacists
Politics, not climate change
“they are the same picture”
And the fact that these two can even be conflated is peak stupidity
A whole slew of politicians from every party and every corner of the Union have more or less said “can the media and firebrand politicians chill out before we all start getting bumped off?”. I’m paraphrasing, of course.
Seriously why is everyone surprised that other people who have to take a public political stance, and stand at a podium and trust their security, are now asking to not get killed at their job?
Can’t. There’s no money in calmness and cooperation. Gotta keep people divided and fearful to keep printing fat stacks.
If you read between the lines the messaging is “holy fuck, you got people killed in 2020. Cut this shit out because you’re getting people killed again”.
J6 did nothing to curb this country’s lust for blood.
Correct.
The pot-stirring also exacerbated rioting in the summer of 2020, too. Both of those events got the media to lay off a little bit, but that only lasted for a little while.
Which really speaks to the root of most of the big problems we face as a country.
The real killdozer guy never killed anyone (though he did try, I think). Granted, abusing memes shouldn’t be a dome-able offense but like this doesn’t feel as bad as like hearing about the tenth school shooting in a year. At best, this guy died getting what he wanted - helping his corrupt criminal politician du jour get a snazzy photo op.
FTR, IIRC he did not try & he actively went around some (stupid) people that got in the way of the killdozer. He wanted to level buildings, property of all the people that he felt “wronged him”. He was stopped only when the killdozer fell into a basement, foundation & he was embarrassingly stuck like a Roomba. He then took his own life, with the gun that had precisely 1 bullet in it.
Now I don’t like this man being made out to be some kind of hero; this, too, is inaccurate. Truth is, he was a shitty businessman who was offered a lot of money to evacuate his property, make room for another development, which he accepted. And then changed his mind like a little bitch. Then he tried to get more money & was denied. Then he was railroaded via eminent domain because of course, he fucked himself & now had this property with much lower value & idk no good entryway or something (JFGI). Then he liquidated all his earthly possessions & built this killdozer…again, because he was a butthurt, greedy little bitch that went back on his word & rejected good offers…to destroy properties. But not kill people.
He then took his own life, with the gun that had precisely 1 bullet in it.
He had several guns, with many more than “precisely one bullet.” He fired 15 rounds at tanks in a propane storage yard containing 30,000 gallons of propane, as well as several electrical transformers.
Even moreso, during breakdown of the killdozer the state intentionally sent the parts to many different refineries to prevent a worker or otherwise recognizing original killdozer parts and saving them as trophies to turn him into a folk hero. Specifically because he was just a butthurt bitch not some “rebel of the people” or whatever other icon someone could come up with.
Very smart!! I didn’t know that!
Is “don’t tread on me” libertarian? I always thought it was right wing anti government.
You’re just saying libertarian in more words.
“American lib” is a very different thing to a libertarian. It confuses the hell out of the rest of the world when you lot do that. Suddenly the conversation flips randomly, “Oh, wait they mean American libs which are actually mostly anti-libertarianism.”
There are other words to describe what American libs are. Just because they think they’re libertarian, certainly doesn’t mean you call them that.
Well, only the right wing wants less govt, and even then only certain portions
Please do point to one single instance of the right wing wanting less government at any point in the last 50 years, I’ll wait
The repeal of Obamacare attempt.
Every state that is doing private school voucher program.
Reducing the budget of the IRS yielding a 42% reductions in audits from 2010 to 2017.
Republicans defund, then claim that the whole thing was a waste of time.
Unless of coarse if we’re taking about military funding, or tax credits(see defund) for legacy corporations
You know, those are actually really good points. And “bleeding the beast” is one of my actively most hated tactics of theirs… Don’t know how I could have forgotten about that, tbh. There’s just so much horseshit to keep up with these days that I occasionally lose some in the pile I guess.
Killdozer
That was a citizen, not a politician, and therefore had no say in right-wing policy or size of government.
I don’t mean individual voters, I mean “the right” as a bloc, i.e. Republicans. Because they’ll tell you all day long that they pine for a smaller government, while signing off three bills increasing government presence at the Mexico border, or creating a new task force for illegalizing trans folks, before they even finish lying to you about it. And folks vote for them because of their lies.
I have other separate issues with them trying to destroy all the actually useful government entities such as the EPA and the FDA and the post office, but shit, at least that is faithful to what they claim their goals to be.
But for the entirety of my life the right wing has been clamoring constantly about “muh small government” while actively working to stick their governmental noses directly into every single person’s business. They’re liars and crooks. And events like the Killdozer Incident happen because of their lies and crookedness.
Not really, the difference between left and right seems to mostly be where they want the government’s focus to be. Left wants to primarily regulate business focusing on reducing harm and fair treatment for workers while allowing as much freedom of choice to the individual as possible. Right wants to primarily regulate individual behavior enforcing their religious and/or ethical standards while allowing business as much freedom as possible. This is of course a broad generalization and the entire political landscape in the US has been creeping right for decades.
I don’t even know anymore lol
This is anti government, that is the killdozer that treaded on the local government officials.
Libertarians are basically right-wingers who also like to smoke weed and want legalization.
want legalization
Of pedophilia
Here in the US those mean the same thing. That is, “Libertarian” specifically means right libertarian for some reason.
It doesn’t even mean that, since there’s all the oppressive social rights they support. A free market may be the only common ground shared with right libertarianism, then things go wildly different
Is it verified that that is the actual account of the person because theirs a chance someone out there exists with the same first name and last name
edit too serious commentary removed from before I realized what sub I was in
