*please note i deeply value and respect the vegan movement. i am just critical of how humorously it precipitates in online spaces, particularly this one. :)

  • Clent@lemmy.world
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    The meme is about this type response. Hilarious.

    Veganism does cause intellectual deficiencies. Did you forget to take your supplements?

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      Your response isn’t any better, to be honest. Yes, there is a certain risk of a negative impact on cognitive performance related to a large and long-time B12 or iron deficiency. But there is a large difference between “you have to take supplements to be healthy” and a blanket claim of “veganism does cause intellectual deficiencies”, especially considering most vegans supplement.

      Side note: the B12 in factory farmed meat is also supplemented to those animals, otherwise their meat wouldn’t contain it, being produced under those conditions. Let’s hope the farmer didn’t skimp on the supplements for their animals either.

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        veganism does cause intellectual deficiencies especially considering so most vegans have to supplement.

        Better?

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          No, since the claim “veganism does cause intellectual deficiencies” is still wrong, because veganism doesn’t cause this, a lack of supplementation does. And most vegans supplement adequately. So saying that veganism “per default” causes this would be dishonest, because it implies that not properly supplementing is the default/intrinsic to veganism, which is not the case.

          It’s like saying “drinking alcohol kills you” just because you have to be mindful of limiting your consumption and it can kill you if you don’t. An extreme statement that contains a kernel of truth, but is simply not correct.

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            Good argument, but it’s still admitting that veganism is completely unsuitable for humans in general, due to (and proven by) the need for supplements

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              How does this follow in any way? You know that the distinction of “supplement” and “regular part of the diet” is completely arbitrary, right? What’s the difference between regular supplementation and the requirement of “having to hydrate” or “eat your greens for your vitamins” to be healthy? It’s even less logical/relevant considering many replacement products add B12 etc on their own by now.

              Also factory farmed animals are getting B12 fed as a supplement, which makes this argument even weirder. “Pills bad/not part of the diet”, but feeding the same pills to pigs and then eating their meat to get the same nutrients is suddenly “ok and natural/good diet”? Doesn’t make sense to me.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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      “The meme is about this type response”

      no it’s not.

      personal attack against their intelligence

      not cool. you should consider logging onto the internet and being kind to people.

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        Allowing bad ideas to propagate unchallenged helps no one.

        There are studies behind the negative affects on brain health that occur with vegan diet are not something I made up.

        Unlike the agenda based studies that vegans trot out, there is hard science backing it up.

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          “no you don’t understand, bad ideas have to be challenged that’s why i was forced to personally insult you”

          blocked for being rude. toodles ✌️