• EleventhHour@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Neither is calling the president an ineloquent loser without having an alternative. So stop acting like complaining is the answer.

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      Or how about listen to your voter base? Biden was looked at as a stand in after his first win. Ppl were not happy to vote for him twice. The DNC had 4 years to look for a viable replacement. Instead of acting like they can decide for us the DNC should of exercised potential replacements. It’s what got us Hilary even though she was wildly unpopular and clearly democrats learned fuck all since her campaign.

      The DNC think they’re king makers in a democracy they claim they want to preserve. And yes I’m voting for anyone over Trump but the DNC should’ve not pushed their pick and let the primaries play out like the democracy its suppose to be

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        Or how about listen to your voter base?

        They literally did. In their primary. Which overwhelmingly voted for Biden. Anybody could have run, some people did, none of them held a candle to Biden’s numbers.

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        You lost the primary. All you’re bitching about is losing.

        Now it’s Biden versus Trump. That’s your choice. Fascism or Biden. Which do you prefer prefer? I know I would much rather have Biden than fucking fascism.

        Quit your fucking bitching! Because if you don’t vote for Biden in November you’ll never have a choice again!

        And when they’re shoving people into ovens YOULL REALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO BITCH ABOUT!!!

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          I’ve heard the same shit for years.

          I’ll hear it in 4 more years when instead of actually giving us healthcare we are sending billions for Israel to kill Palestinian children and that generic republican president will make a full dictatorship day 1 and the whole country is doomed and blah blah blah.

          Get a new script

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            I’ve heard the same shit for years.

            Specifically every election year since 1992 if not longer

            I’ll hear it in 4 more years

            The good news is you won’t.

            The bad news is that you won’t because the DNC will have finally pissed away democracy with their insistence that every election is 1992 and their preferred candidates are all Bill Clinton.

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          You lost the primary.

          There wasn’t one. It was an utter sham and is one of the things people are frustrated about.

          Quit your fucking bitching!

          No. People are allowed to voice their frustrations with a geriatric who has proven he’s as arrogant as trump. Until facism takes over America, it is literally a right for people to bitch about their leaders.

          This is ridiculous.

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      Neither is calling the president an ineloquent loser without having an alternative.

      Yes, the emperor has the finest clothes.

      Come up with a viable candidate that can beat Trump

      Want a list of names to dismiss?

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      There are many alternatives. He is ineloquent. I don’t want to deal with a confused old man at death’s door signing up for four more years. He should be replaced.

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        We are not at the stage where you say ‘altetnatives’, but are instead at the stage where you need to start listing specific names.

        The best candidates (the various governors) don’t seem to be jumping on board. Kamala looks risky politically but on technicalities she might have access to Bidens donations since she’s the running mate.

        Is there any other alternative you want to bring up?

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      Neither is calling the president an ineloquent loser without having an alternative. So stop acting like complaining is the answer.

      Complaining is the answer. Biden shouldn’t have ran in the first place, his Cabinet should have threatened to 25th Amendment him if he decided to run again. He’s going through dementia. And most importantly he’s loosing in the polls especially so in 6 out of the 7 swing states. And voters considering Biden state that his age and competence is their #1 reservation keeping them from voting for him. RFK has nearly 10% in some places a couple of percentage points from himeams that he’ll beat Trump amd what he needs to do is adress his obvious shortcomings.

      But unless rank and file Democrats complain, nothing will change. They didn’t complain enough before the faux-primary and now they need to complain even more now.

      You want to replace Biden? Come up with a viable candidate that can beat Trump or realize that Biden is the best we’re gonna get before November and deal with it.

      Harris, Butttiget, Booker, Whitmer and one other person whose name I can’t recall at this time were polling withing 2 points of Biden’s clip last week. According to this poll Harris polling ahead of Biden and beating Trump nationally in polling. While I’m not sold on a Harris Presidency because of her very poor record; I think she’s in the best position to take over.

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      Nah I’m going to go ahead and keep up the bitching and moaning because it is the only halfway decent chance I have at getting a president who actually cares about the things I do

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      calling the president […] ineloquent

      He obviously demonstrably is

      without having an alternative

      Are you calling Joe “there’s 50 other Democrats who could beat Trump” Biden a liar? You gotta be, since you’re denying that he’s ineloquent.

      stop acting like complaining is the answer.

      I must have missed that part of the first amendment. Is it next to the part about a constitutional right to redress of grievances?

      You want to replace Biden?

      Yes, please.

      Come up with a viable candidate that can beat Trump

      Not our job. I bet you’re one of those people who tell anyone who doesn’t like your favorite music act to “make a better album yourself or shut up”.

      You think that’s a good point, but it’s not. In fact, it’s every bit as asinine and as any argument for voting for the Mango Mussolini.

      Biden is the best we’re gonna get

      Since the US democracy isn’t very good at listening to the people in general rather than only those with the most money and power, you’re probably right for the first time in your impassioned defense of settling for awful.

      enough with the bitching and moaning.

      You say at the end of a rant bitching and moaning about people rightly being wary of having to choose between having a severely impaired president or not having a democracy at all.

      Be better. Demand more of the people who are supposed to represent your interests.

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        Tripping over a few words during the debate isn’t “severely impaired”. And if you have to lie to make your point, you don’t have much of a point.

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          Tripping over a few words during the debate isn’t “severely impaired

          And also NOWHERE near the extent of it. Did you even watch the clip before declaring your disappointment in the guy trying to warn you that there’s trouble ahead?

          And if you have to lie to make your point, you don’t have much of a point.

          More inane projection 🙄

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              I watched the whole debate

              Congratulations on your bias shielding you from fully comprehending the extent of his sundowning, I guess?

              I didn’t mean only the debate, though. There’s been a LOT of “what is the most powerful human in the world trying to say??” moments both before and after that specific debacle.

              declaring “nuh-uh!” isn’t a counter argument

              Lucky for me that there wasn’t an argument to counter, then, just you screeching “YOU LIE!” a propos of nothing.

              it’s copium

              Again with the projection lol

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              You watched the whole debate and your internal alarm wasn’t BLARING @EleventhHour?

              Are you that disillusioned or dulled from politics that whatever *that* was on stage was okay and acceptable to you?

              I will vote for Biden because I don’t want to vote for literally Hitler but holy shit.

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      Viable candidate? Dude, I could personally beat Donald Trump with the dem nomination, and im nobody. Trying to keep biden in is literally just trying to get trump elected. Hes the only person who could lose, because he might die before the vote.