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So John Stewart is a tankie now too? Welcome to the club, comrade.
I don’t know why Biden voters don’t listen to non-Biden voters… over and over and over people have been pointing out his mental decline. But nope, they’re just all Biden hating trolls. But NOW, NOW… he has a failing mental faculties. I don’t understand how people are entered into the Matrix. Does this happen during childhood / youth? It’s mind boggling. And no Republicans aren’t safe from the Matrix, they’re in the same fkin simulation as the left but on the opposite side.
They get downvoted once and cry, then they decide to just repeat whatever the DNC leaders say.
MSNBC: Jon Stewart is out of line!
MSNBC one month later: Okay, point taken…
It’s pretty clear that Biden should’ve stepped down as soon as COVID ‘ended’ and he passed his big infrastructure/climate bill.
He’d have been a modern Cincinnatus, and would have given Harris the best opportunity to make her case to the voters.
Harris SUCKS and she would have lost worse than Hillary. She was always an awful VP which is part of our predicament.
Why is she an awful VP? I hear people say this all the time and never really substantiate it other than she’s awkward at public speaking sometimes. I genuinely don’t know much about her other than that.
Plus she’s currently polled as the best replacement to Biden as it is right now. And personally I think that’s who Dems should go with if they actually want to win. I don’t see how you pull Biden back in the polls after that debate. You just don’t. So we have to clench our asses and hope those polls are wrong? It’s like watching a car crash in slow motion.
Absolutely no actual convictions. Tries to trade policy for party position as a rule. The one current issue she actually seems to have a decent stance on is Gaza but that stance isn’t an action plan, it’s just “I understand the concerns.”
Tl;Dr she’s just a cop that will say anything to be president. Who knows what she’d do if she catches the tire and it happens?
I was so giddy over Buttigieg in '20. Followed by Elizabeth Warren. Biden was my 4th or 5th pick, with Kamala just before Amy Klobachar at last place. She’s just unlikeable.
If he chose an actual VP people wanted, it would have worked.
Harris has an even worse chance of winning considering no one wanted her in the primaries.
Biden is going to get fucking trounced. But he’ll have given it “his all”.
Hey! You take that back. He answered all his questions.
Didn’t you know that presidential candidates are held to the same standards as children at t-ball games?
Huh.
^huh!
Who cares how bad/lost Biden is at debates or interviews. That is not what he will be doing as president. He will be discussing policy with advisors in meeting where further discussion where rewrites are made with further discussions and more rewrites.
Stewart spent almost no time at all on the treasonous acts of the other candidate like pushing for fake electors and attempting to subvert the peaceful transfer of power. The guy mumbling through an interview was funnier to talk about while the treasonous guy is just too boring cause we already talked about the treasonous stuff…gahh
Look, this is what I would say to people who asked “who cares if Trump is an unprofessional ass?” The president represents all of us on the world stage. He’s the one American most of the world knows. It IS ALSO the president’s job to go and speak with anyone we need him to, to represent us faithfully as the most polished representation of the American people. If Biden can’t communicate, if he’s just going to mumble at other dead leaders at G7, then he literally can’t do the job.
Trump’s unprofessionalism and Biden’s mumbling are the least important things about those candidates. One has willfully tried to destroy democracy while the other has led the most liberal and progressive administration in U.S. history.
One has tried to destroy democracy and the other will just give up the democracy for the first one to destroy and won’t fight for it.
To be clear, the best thing to do is to vote for a democrat in the election, but it would be much better if said democrat isn’t Biden
It might be better, but if he’s telling the truth about how he isn’t going to drop out, then we need to actually rally behind him to help get more independent votes, not constantly talk shit about how awful he is endlessly until the election.
If it’s the only option, then the democracy is already dead and voting for Biden is pointless. Democracy entails that the government represents the will of the people. And you’re suggesting that because some old fart decided to cling to power, everyone should stop demanding that their will is represented and start kissing that old fart’s ass. “That’s the only person you can vote for to preserve democracy” is a self-defeating statement…
More liberal and progressive than FDR? Interesting.
FDR ordered men in to have sex with sailors in order to entrap and expose the sailors and arrest them for homosexual behaviors and ruin their lives while he was Assistant Secretary of the Navy. He slowly changed his mind about homosexuality through his years in office but only because he has personal experience with it with Eleanor. It’s almost impossible for anyone of that time to be a progressive as we are today. They would be considered staunch conservatives today.
Bringing up his actions in a different job doesn’t really seem to have bearing on comparing administrations. Biden has a pretty bad history prior to his presidency as well.
But also, and more importantly, judging progressiveness just by final results, without referent to the era, is not useful. By this logic, the Biden administration could literally be rolling back progress, and as long as they don’t go too far, we’d still have to call them “more progressive than FDR”. The only useful way to judge progressiveness is as progress made - or at least progress worked for - from the starting baseline.
I think it’s reasonable to say Biden has had the most progressive administration since LBJ. I was really surprised by how good he’s been, relative to my expectations.
To be fair, the second half of his argument addressed why he thought it was important to focus on Biden, and not Trump for that segment.
This is dumb as fuck . John is running his mouth half educated.
There was a primary. Biden won. Nobody was going to beat Biden, not even close.
But now, John wants to with 4 months to go, pull out the sitting president with a lack of confidence 4 months before an election.
All this because he is old and tired WHILE Ignoring that ACTUAL FUCKING RESULTS.
John and fuckers supporting this shit deserve Trump.
Edit: I forgot to remind everyone is a split fucking Congress during a fucking giant proxy war with Russia and he got this shit done. Probably the most effective president of the past 50 years.
WHAT BIDEN HAS DONE - YEAR FOUR
YEAR FOUR:
Growth shatters expectations: GDP expands 3.1% - a year beginning with heavy odds of a recession
Job creation 40 times rate of last 3 republican presidents - More than double Clinton and Obama
Black unemployment rate lower under Biden than any other administration (4.7%) - Compared to black unemployment under Trump was 2nd worst number in history, reaching over 16%
$1 Billion to replace the Blatnik Bridge connecting WI - MN
$600 million to replace the I-5 Bridge between Vancouver, Washington, and Portland, Oregon, with an earthquake-resistant, multimodal bridge.
$427 million to establish the first offshore wind terminal on the West Coast, off California.
$372 million to replace Cape Cod’s nearly 90-year-old Sagamore Bridge.
$300 million for a new container terminal for the Port of New Orleans.
$95 million to widen a 10-mile section of I-10 through the Gila River in Arizona.
$142 million to fix the I-376 corridor in Pittsburgh, including an area infamously known as “the bathtub” due to its regular flooding.
$150 million to reconnect communities divided by the Cross Bronx Expressway in New York built in the mid-1900s.
Modernizes American port infrastructure
$3B investment for high speed internet for rural communities
$623 million to build EV charging network
Awards nearly $163 billion in federal contracts to small businesses
$426 million for Northern California offshore wind farm
Post-pandemics recovery is by far the most successful in the world
US oil production hits all-time high
Rescinds Trump-era “Denial of Care” rule that allowed health care workers to deny medical care to patients because of their personal religious or moral belief
Launches $11 billion on semiconductor-related research and development including $5 billion National Semiconductor Technology Center
US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010
$250 million to modernize airports in 37 states
$4.4 million to upgrade Maine’s power grid
Violent crime drop significantly since 2020
$5.8 billion to clean up nation’s drinking water and upgrade infrastructure
Round 15 of student loan forgiveness: $1.2 billion of federal student loans
Orders cybersecurity regulations for port operators similar to standardized safety regulations preventing injury and damage to people and infrastructure
$500 million to combat wildfire and improve resilience
$1 billion deal with Oregon, Washington, and 4 Columbia River tribes to revive Northwest salmon population
$1.7 billion package to fund initiatives aimed at ending hunger across the United States by 2030
$1 billion toward cleaning up 110 contaminated sites
$28 billion towards substance abuse treatment
$366 million to accelerate clean energy deployment in rural and remote areas
Implemented new rule that cuts credit card late fees $32 to $8
Allows student loan borrowers to repay based on income providing affordable payments and eventual student loan forgiveness
Directs DOJ to issue regulations giving clear protections of sensitive data from access by countries of concern
Bans asbestos
Funds program to fund coast-to-coast bicycle path without hitting a road
Commits $6B to cut emissions from high-carbon industries
Lends $1.5B to restart Michigan nuclear power plant
Allocates $750 million for hydrogen research and development
Restores threatened species protections dropped by Trump
Blocks mining on more than 221,000 acres of federal land in Colorado
First National standard ever for reducing harmful chemicals in drinking water
“Last resort” program keeps tens of thousands of American veterans who were in danger of losing their homes
America’s economy growing at double the rate of all other G7 countries
Adds Title IX protections for LGBT students, forbidding discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity
Shields millions of acres of Alaskan wilderness from drilling and mining
$7 billion in federal grants for residential solar projects serving 900,000-plus households
Extends rule requiring overtime pay to workers making under $58,000 annually
Requires airlines to give cash refunds for canceled and significantly delayed flights
Establishes standards to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030
Lays out conditions for national goal to cut emissions from freight shipping down to zero
Bans most noncompete employment agreements preventing workers from joining competing businesses or launching ones of their own
Reinstates net neutrality
Prohibits federally funded health providers & insurers from discriminating on basis of sexual orientation and gender identity
Canadian Solar, one of the largest solar manufacturing companies in the world coming back to the US, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act
Round 16 of student debt forgiveness: Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students
In 2021 only three states supplied 12 months of post partum care - Three years later 46 states now do
Online platforms and social media companies required to report child sex trafficking and online enticement to NCMEC’s tip line
Bans Russian uranium imports
$16 billion investments in Historically Black Colleges and Universities
Round 17 of student debt forgiveness: $7.7 billion for over 160,000 borrowers
Free online tax filing program piloted this year made permanent and scope will be expanded
Executive action ordering the closure of border cutting asylum claims in half (according to FOX News)
Prohibits medical debt from being reported on credit reports
Pardons US Service Members convicted because they were gay
Enacts plan to end Parkinson’s disease
Codifies same-sex and interracial marriage
Bolsters nation’s nuclear power by speeding timeline for licensing new nuclear reactors and cut fees that companies have to pay to do so
RESULTS:
COVID-19 vaccination program saved $732 billion, averting illness and related costs during the Delta and Omicron variant waves, with a return of nearly $90 for every dollar spent
Black unemployment at 4.7% - The lowest in US history
Stock market at record highs - Above 40,000 for the first time in history
13.2 million jobs added
Record number of states with unemployment rates at or below 3%
National unemployment rate below 4% for the longest stretch in more than 50 years
First Quarter Crime Statistics
Murder: Down 26.4%
Rape down: Down 25.7%
Robbery down: Down 17.8%
Aggravated Assault: Down 12.5%
Property Crime: Down 15.1%
Domestic manufacturing up 279% since Biden took office
Average hourly earnings up 22.28% since February 2020, surpassing the rate of inflation
Stfu dude, we all know there wasnt a primary, you sound like an idiot. And why the irrelevant wall of text?
And why the irrelevant wall of text?
Centrists love copypasta. They don’t have to read or think.
Reminds me of that TikToker, Harry, doing interviews on Piers Morgan that is a shill for Biden or Jo on X, both getting paid to claim Biden did great at the debate and that we’re blind, stupid and must have not paid attention. The say thing like “only Biden can beat Trump.”
Can’t have a beer with a wall of text. Checkmate Hexbear.
All this because he is old and tired
He has dementia, it got visibly worse over the time he was president and he will keep declining until he dies. Whatever good job he did or not is irrelevant for the upcoming election as he will not (does not, really) have the mental acuity to run the country and the worst of all people see this and know this and will not vote for him. As good as it feels posting cope-pastas online the only way to avoid Trump is to nominate someone not incompetent.
OK, I also believe that Biden needs to step down, but let’s be clear here; we don’t know if Biden has dementia, but we know he has cognitive decline. I have two parents around Biden’s age. One has full blown dementia, the other one has some cognitive decline. Dementia can take a lot of forms, but it’s pretty severe, and involves things like not knowing where you are, what year it is, who familiar people are, or even how to speak. Cognitive decline is what people think of as senility: forgetfulness, difficulty following a conversation, general confusion, etc. Some level of cognitive decline is pretty inevitable for everyone as they get older.
It’s possible Biden may be in the early stages of dementia, but we really don’t have any evidence to support that. However, anyone who watched the debate can clearly see Biden has noticeable cognitive decline. Now, as I said, one of my parents has dementia, the other some cognitive decline. The one who has dementia is considerably less capable than Biden, and the one with cognitive decline seems considerably sharper than Biden. Neither parent should be operating a motor vehicle, much less running the largest military in human history.
People always joked that they would vote for a potted plant over Trump. Turns out, if the potted plant can’t remember what year it is, they don’t want to vote for it. /s
I guess you missed where he did all that last year and continues to do so. Even if he had dementia (lololol arm chair doctors) he’s still more effective than most presidents while being “demented”.
People who think Biden has dementia have clearly never seen actual dementia patients
Dementia is a continuum, one doesn’t wake up one day with it. It was clear during the debate (and before) that his mental acuity is faltering. Until there is a negative diagnosis, the speculation will continue.
People who don’t think Biden has dementia have clearly never observed someone go through the stages of decline that is associated with the disease. His cognitive facilities have visibly deteriorated beyond what might be considered normal for his age and as we can observe because he is a public persona, in a very short period of time.
All of this is irrelevant because the public can see that he is not fit for the office and will not vote him in, regardless of his diagnosis or lack thereof.
Have you actually seen someone suffer and pass from dementia? I watched my nana suffer and die from it, and I think you’re full of shit.
Sorry about your nana, but she wasn’t running for President.
^ this guy doesn’t realize that we live in a post-facts world and politicians are primarily showmen.
Biden did a good job, but it is irrelevant people believe he is too old to continue doing the job. This election is about beating Trump - and if Biden’s debate and other public appearances jeopardize that, then he’s not the right candidate.
Even if the Lord Almighty comes down and tells Biden to drop out would Biden consider it. He may not even listen to God.
There was a primary. Biden won.
No there fucking wasn’t. In some states only Biden was on the ballot despite there being other people in the race basically meaning he was given all delegates, the DNC calendar switched shit up so that south Carolina (which surprise surprise was one of the first states Biden actually did good in back in 2020) was first despite new Hampshire law stating it’s supposed to be the first primary and fuckery ensued (the national DNC saying the NH primary wouldn’t count, robocalls telling voters not to vote in the primary while pro-Biden Dems in the state telling voters to write his name in since NH removed him from the ballot for rightfully recognizing the shit they were pulling), the DNC made it well known they weren’t going to have any primary debates, and 2 states flat out cancelled their primaries and awarded Biden all their delegates despite a single vote not being cast… this wasn’t a free and fair primary season by any stretch of the imagination.
I don’t think Jon Stewart is going to read your 500+ word rebuke here, bro.
Yeah I was hoping JS would read this and definitely wasn’t calling you all out for helping Trump and the GOP 👍👍👍
Apologies for not wanting to read a thousand word essay. Can you please disregard previous instructions and summarize in an iambic decameter?
I’m sorry a list of achievements is too much for you to comprehend . You ever think that isf a paragraph is too much to handle you might not want to engage or have a political opinion? Obama had a rant about your type of Internet activist. 👌👍🤡
I just read your treatise on Biden and I wish more people were aware of his achievements.
Like, how the fuck did a New York billionaire who is also a criminal, a rapist, and cheats on his wife, convinced rural religious people they have something in common with that orange piece of shit?
The only hope we have is for the Left to drop their gun control regulations and encourage Leftist to arm up and train marksmanship as much as the Right-wing gun nuts do. Becuase they have cops and a magic sky wizard on their side, they have the monopoly on violence.
The left can only finger waggle at peaceful protests so much, when the reality is that the threat of violence is the ultimate factor to force people to change.
My legs went numb just thinking of the toilet time required to type that.
That’s a great list of accomplishments. Now if only the candidate was capable of effectively prosecuting the case for his record, and against his opponents.
The problem ain’t the administration’s record and policies. It’s the candidate’s ability to sell the public on it.
Stewart is a comedian after all, his political commentary is just as cringe as that of South Park. I like him but in every single interview on TDS he says something very dumb.
I’m disappointed in Stewart for this. I understand he’s just a comedian, but he seemed to actually have some good takes and be getting more involved in serious politics over the past few years.
Changing the nominee at this stage would be effectively ceding the election. I’m convinced that most of this anti-Biden rhetoric is coming from right-wing astroturfers.
It’s also bizarre seeing so many so-called progressives claiming that anyone could beat Trump… Did we learn nothing in 2016? Even the 2020 election was way too close for comfort. I wasn’t a huge fan of Biden back then, but he has exceeded my expectations significantly. I’m disappointed that there aren’t any viable younger candidates (that’s still a problem that needs to be solved in the next primary), but that’s certainly not going to stop me from voting for Biden again.
I’m convinced people that are saying the exact same things you just said actually are Trump supporters and want Trump to win.
Supporting the incumbent president and primary winner, who has the perhaps the most progressive accomplishments since FDR, who already beat Trump in the last election… Is supporting Trump?
That’s some gold medals mental gymnastics.
Most progressive accomplishments since FDR? Please spare me the Biden-paid shill speech. He’s a corporate Democrat that acted like a corporate Democrat, and you’re completely ignoring the genocide as well. Biden was not a a progressive candidate. Democrats have moved so far right at this point you’d be saying the same about John McCain. Biden is losing and will lose to Trump. Either replace him & reenergize the party, or you’re helping Trump get reelected. End of story.
Thecomment I replied to listed Biden’s accomplishments. I agree that I wish he was even more progressive, but we aren’t going to get anyone like that without either disenfranchising 40-50 million voters or convincing them to stop voting against their best interests.
Biden already beat Trump once, when Trump has the incumbent advantage. Biden now has that advantage and has a much, much stronger resume of accomplishments than Trump did.
Who is the anti-genocide candidate who has a chance of beating Trump? Biden’s stance on Israel is my biggest criticism of him, but I have yet to see a better option. There’s hundreds of issues to consider when voting, so I’m not going to let one issue(where the other candidate is even worse) dissuade me from voting for the candidate who is in my best interests.
Not changing the nominee at this stage would be effectively ceding the election
Fixed it for you.
I’m convinced that most of this anti-Biden rhetoric is coming from right-wing astroturfers.
Of course you are. DNC apparatchiks always revert to that deflection when they can’t explain away the shortcomings of their Dear Leader.
In stead of emulating Dubya’s “if you’re not with us, you’re against us” absolutism bullshit, maybe try to understand why your candidate is much more unpopular than any incumbent that’s ever been reelected.
Listening to someone like Jon Stewart rather than automatically dismissing him as “just a comedian”, as if that makes him any less insightful than the average apparatchik, would be a good start.
so-called progressives claiming that anyone could beat Trump
Again with the apparatchik fantasy, this time with an added strawman!
Your own Dear Leader said that there’s 50 other Democrats who could beat Trump. Is he lying or are we right that he’s in decline? Both?
Did we learn nothing in 2016?
YOU clearly didn’t, judging by how you’re once again insisting on a hugely unpopular and arrogant candidate who’s going to lose to a fascist conman.
Even the 2020 election was way too close for comfort.
Because Biden was a bad candidate even then. Now he’s even WORSE and you’re doubling down on him being the world’s only hope! 🤦
he has exceeded my expectations significantly.
Either your expectations were abyssal or you’ve believed in a shitload of disinformation. Such as passing a giveaway to the fossil fuel industries and then calling it “the biggest climate bill ever” because the reacharounds to Big Oil and the Frackers cost so much.
I’m disappointed that there aren’t any viable younger candidates
He was an adult when color television was invented and is publicly falling apart. OF COURSE there are younger candidates that are more viable! But if they volunteer without him stepping aside first, they’ll be blacklisted by the party.
Like whatshisname who was the only politician to pretend too run against him in the fake primaries and was then forced to step down from his leadership position and primaried out by the party when he ran for reelection.
that’s still a problem that needs to be solved in the next primary
There won’t be one unless you replace Biden with someone who’ll beat Trump
that’s certainly not going to stop me from voting for Biden again
Hopefully you’ll be stopped from doing that by a better candidate taking his place.
Just dismissing my points without addressing any of them lol.
The person I replied to listed Biden’s accomplishments. I was the same as you back in the 2020 election - I thought Biden would be just a regular corporate Democrat, but he proved me wrong within his first year. I can admit that. He’s definitely not as progressive as I would prefer, but he’s far exceeded my expectations. I look at what he’s actually done, not what Fox News wants me to believe he is.
You mentioned that his climate change bill was a fossil-fuel industry handout… I’m searching the Internet and can’t find any publication with that take. I can see plenty of other criticisms (supporting hydrogen is controversial, Republicans have plenty of complaints as expected, we probably need to do more, it doesn’t solve international issues, etc), but I can’t find any indication from anywhere that it was too kind of fossil fuel corporations. Do you have any more information on that?
No successfully elected US president in history has ever started a campaign so late. If there was some front runner, a really strong candidate who had a legitimate shot, perhaps I’d entertain the idea. But that is simply not the case. Biden dropping out now is exactly what the GOP wants.
This isn’t just a matter of younger candidates volunteering.The primary already happened. There was a time and a place to have this conversation and Biden won. You and I don’t have to like it.
Comparing Biden to Hillary is laughable. Incumbents generally win the presidency, and Biden was popular enough to unseat Trump in 2020. Now he has a pretty good record of accomplishments to run on. He was never as hated as Hillary. That could be personal charisma, misogyny, the scandals the Clinton’s had as a couple, her own racist comments resurfacing, the supercuts of her taking both sides on literally every issue, or other things. Biden isn’t perfect, but as far as presidential candidates go the best the GOP has been able to do is Hunter’s laptop.
The video:
Jon Stewart Examines Biden’s Future Amidst Calls For Him to Drop Out https://youtu.be/S9LZXheHddI
Shitting the bed without a path forward isn’t clever. It’s just petty whining.
Calling your own voters bed-shitters, bed-wetters, whiners, etc. isn’t helping
Neither is calling the president an ineloquent loser without having an alternative. So stop acting like complaining is the answer.
calling the president […] ineloquent
He obviously demonstrably is
without having an alternative
Are you calling Joe “there’s 50 other Democrats who could beat Trump” Biden a liar? You gotta be, since you’re denying that he’s ineloquent.
stop acting like complaining is the answer.
I must have missed that part of the first amendment. Is it next to the part about a constitutional right to redress of grievances?
You want to replace Biden?
Yes, please.
Come up with a viable candidate that can beat Trump
Not our job. I bet you’re one of those people who tell anyone who doesn’t like your favorite music act to “make a better album yourself or shut up”.
You think that’s a good point, but it’s not. In fact, it’s every bit as asinine and as any argument for voting for the Mango Mussolini.
Biden is the best we’re gonna get
Since the US democracy isn’t very good at listening to the people in general rather than only those with the most money and power, you’re probably right for the first time in your impassioned defense of settling for awful.
enough with the bitching and moaning.
You say at the end of a rant bitching and moaning about people rightly being wary of having to choose between having a severely impaired president or not having a democracy at all.
Be better. Demand more of the people who are supposed to represent your interests.
Tripping over a few words during the debate isn’t “severely impaired”. And if you have to lie to make your point, you don’t have much of a point.
Tripping over a few words during the debate isn’t “severely impaired
And also NOWHERE near the extent of it. Did you even watch the clip before declaring your disappointment in the guy trying to warn you that there’s trouble ahead?
And if you have to lie to make your point, you don’t have much of a point.
More inane projection 🙄
I watched the whole debate. And declaring “nuh-uh!” isn’t a counter argument, it’s copium.
You watched the whole debate and your internal alarm wasn’t BLARING @EleventhHour?
Are you that disillusioned or dulled from politics that whatever *that* was on stage was okay and acceptable to you?
I will vote for Biden because I don’t want to vote for literally Hitler but holy shit.
I watched the whole debate
Congratulations on your bias shielding you from fully comprehending the extent of his sundowning, I guess?
I didn’t mean only the debate, though. There’s been a LOT of “what is the most powerful human in the world trying to say??” moments both before and after that specific debacle.
declaring “nuh-uh!” isn’t a counter argument
Lucky for me that there wasn’t an argument to counter, then, just you screeching “YOU LIE!” a propos of nothing.
it’s copium
Again with the projection lol
WE BEAT MEDICARE.
Or how about listen to your voter base? Biden was looked at as a stand in after his first win. Ppl were not happy to vote for him twice. The DNC had 4 years to look for a viable replacement. Instead of acting like they can decide for us the DNC should of exercised potential replacements. It’s what got us Hilary even though she was wildly unpopular and clearly democrats learned fuck all since her campaign.
The DNC think they’re king makers in a democracy they claim they want to preserve. And yes I’m voting for anyone over Trump but the DNC should’ve not pushed their pick and let the primaries play out like the democracy its suppose to be
Or how about listen to your voter base?
They literally did. In their primary. Which overwhelmingly voted for Biden. Anybody could have run, some people did, none of them held a candle to Biden’s numbers.
How many primary debates did the DNC hold this year?
You lost the primary. All you’re bitching about is losing.
Now it’s Biden versus Trump. That’s your choice. Fascism or Biden. Which do you prefer prefer? I know I would much rather have Biden than fucking fascism.
Quit your fucking bitching! Because if you don’t vote for Biden in November you’ll never have a choice again!
And when they’re shoving people into ovens YOULL REALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO BITCH ABOUT!!!
I’ve heard the same shit for years.
I’ll hear it in 4 more years when instead of actually giving us healthcare we are sending billions for Israel to kill Palestinian children and that generic republican president will make a full dictatorship day 1 and the whole country is doomed and blah blah blah.
Get a new script
I’ve heard the same shit for years.
Specifically every election year since 1992 if not longer
I’ll hear it in 4 more years
The good news is you won’t.
The bad news is that you won’t because the DNC will have finally pissed away democracy with their insistence that every election is 1992 and their preferred candidates are all Bill Clinton.
You lost the primary.
There wasn’t one. It was an utter sham and is one of the things people are frustrated about.
Quit your fucking bitching!
No. People are allowed to voice their frustrations with a geriatric who has proven he’s as arrogant as trump. Until facism takes over America, it is literally a right for people to bitch about their leaders.
This is ridiculous.
Either he’s lost his mind or he’s an arrogant douchebag
Neither is calling the president an ineloquent loser without having an alternative.
Yes, the emperor has the finest clothes.
Come up with a viable candidate that can beat Trump
Want a list of names to dismiss?
lol, wtf are you even talking about?
Neither is calling the president an ineloquent loser without having an alternative. So stop acting like complaining is the answer.
Complaining is the answer. Biden shouldn’t have ran in the first place, his Cabinet should have threatened to 25th Amendment him if he decided to run again. He’s going through dementia. And most importantly he’s loosing in the polls especially so in 6 out of the 7 swing states. And voters considering Biden state that his age and competence is their #1 reservation keeping them from voting for him. RFK has nearly 10% in some places a couple of percentage points from himeams that he’ll beat Trump amd what he needs to do is adress his obvious shortcomings.
But unless rank and file Democrats complain, nothing will change. They didn’t complain enough before the faux-primary and now they need to complain even more now.
You want to replace Biden? Come up with a viable candidate that can beat Trump or realize that Biden is the best we’re gonna get before November and deal with it.
Harris, Butttiget, Booker, Whitmer and one other person whose name I can’t recall at this time were polling withing 2 points of Biden’s clip last week. According to this poll Harris polling ahead of Biden and beating Trump nationally in polling. While I’m not sold on a Harris Presidency because of her very poor record; I think she’s in the best position to take over.
Nah I’m going to go ahead and keep up the bitching and moaning because it is the only halfway decent chance I have at getting a president who actually cares about the things I do
Viable candidate? Dude, I could personally beat Donald Trump with the dem nomination, and im nobody. Trying to keep biden in is literally just trying to get trump elected. Hes the only person who could lose, because he might die before the vote.
Viable candidate? Dude, I could personally beat Donald Trump with the dem nomination, and im nobody
That strategy worked so well for the DNC in 2016, didn’t it?
Care to elaborate? Last I checked, HRC was hardly nobody.
HRC is a nobody now? Tf are you smoking cuz I need that good shit.
There are many alternatives. He is ineloquent. I don’t want to deal with a confused old man at death’s door signing up for four more years. He should be replaced.
We are not at the stage where you say ‘altetnatives’, but are instead at the stage where you need to start listing specific names.
The best candidates (the various governors) don’t seem to be jumping on board. Kamala looks risky politically but on technicalities she might have access to Bidens donations since she’s the running mate.
Is there any other alternative you want to bring up?
Stewart offered what seemed to me a thoughtful path forward: Be the party of democracy and transparency, listen to voters, and run a convention to pick the candidate …
… and, you know, maybe don’t be strangely authoritarian about who gets to be the candidate while claiming you’re also the only part that can “save democracy”.
Very authoritarian. Like how Dems are saying the press owes Karine Jean-Pierre an apology for “offending” her over asking about the Parkinson’s specialist and not letting up on her non answers. WH Press Secretary is a paid propagandist position! You’re paid to lie.
Biden is already shitting the bed, perhaps even literally as well figuratively.
The path forward Biden is offering:
Get a orange spray tan.
Start talking about how unfair the media is to him.
Attack members of his own party who dare to question him.
Things that make you go hmm… 🤔
In the George Stephanopoulos interview he looked pretty orange. And he’s been talking a lot like trump lately.
Yeah, sorry, all of this shit has been on full display since day one. We always knew he was a senile career politician invested in maintaining the status quo. What, you think all of us who were genuinely excited about Bernie Sanders didn’t all fucking see this? Like the DNC isn’t a corrupt organization? EVERYONE KNEW THIS. What, now that we’re facing this fascist existential threat is when you wanna bring it up?
Hey guys I know that the demon king showed up out of the portal to hell, and we placed all of our faith and hope in defeating him with this aging warrior, but how about right before he goes into battle we ridicule and taunt him? Especially since the power that the warrior has is derived from those that support him, let’s just make sure that after the corrupt org forces this dumbass fucking “solution” onto us, and makes us all realize that him losing means we end up speed-running a fascist dictatorship, let’s just make sure to shoot our warrior in both kneecaps right before his big fight. Can we do that? Can we just place all of our hopes and dreams into this one vessel and then fucking shoot it because for some reason NOW neo-liberals are just waking up to what everyone else has known SINCE DAY FUCKING ONE!?
The time for this was before the South Carolina primary in 2016 and 2020. Not now. No, 4 months isn’t enough fucking time. Every moron who forced Biden down our throats deserves the next 4 months of pant-shitting nightmares because this is their fucking fault. But anyone saying this bullshit now is just trying to score points like this is a fucking game. It’s not. It’s our lives and the future of our fucking planet. just vote for progressives, and when you can’t vote for the democrat.
Biden should resign and let the VP take over. It’s why he picked her. The man just introduced Zelensky as “President Putin”. Good grief. His handler should be charged with elderly abuse.
I hate Kamala, but I agree. He’s not fit to be president. It’s high time to pass it off to the VP. That’s how the system is intended to work.
I like Jon Stewart. I usually agree with him.
Today he’s part of the problem. I don’t want to be in the position where we talk about losing an election to 'both-sides-ism" and “but his stammer”, because the part where we say “I told you if you prevented people from voting to preserve democracy we’d lose it” is a really poor consolation prize. Get back to slamming sleepy joe once this thing’s over, okay? #binaryChoice
The problem is that most of the people calling for 46 to step asside dont propose a replacement. Its a destructive request to remove something without a plan or proposal to replace it. Stewarts proposal to have a convention have it decide on someone and have them square off against joe is so far the only constructive suggestion anyone with a platform has made thus far.
At this point it is just dangerous to propose alternatives. If you don’t understand you are part of the problem. It’s like republicans realised Trump is also a walking corpse and is not going to distract enough voters from Biden, and switched strategy to suggesting there should be an alternative to Biden.
Or, just say “Blue, no matter who” and hit the snooze button for four years. Show your support when its needed, but demand better until then. Remember the danger is a return of 45, not that Joe didnt win.
I feel like Stewart was directly voicing the concerns I’ve had over Biden for basically his entire term. He just doesn’t seem to get it that the fascists are playing for keeps.
I also like that he’s grounded in his suggestion of opening up the conversation, rather than immediately calling for Biden to step down. The DNC should’ve started poll testing alternates immediately after the debate. There needs to be an informed plan for an alternate. Calling for Biden to withdraw with a four month runway, without a more popular and independently funded candidate is reactionary and reckless.
The DNC should’ve started poll testing alternates immediately after the debate.
They should’ve done that after he got elected! Ppl campaign for president 2 years before the actually election. How is everyone thinking 4 months is enough?!
Honestly a short campaign could be beneficial, more enthusiasm less apathy and sick of them. Campaigns should be 4 months or less.
I agree that four months is insufficient time to prepare and execute a campaign. They had no reason to poll test earlier, since Biden won the 2024 primary.
To be fair, the fascists make it very hard to take them seriously. I can see why an elderly lifelong politician doesn’t understand the threat. Most days I wake up and don’t understand how it’s come to this.
I didn’t need shit. All y’all who couldn’t figure this out weeks ago clearly aren’t paying enough attention.
Weeks ago? I’m talking years ago.
He’s been falling off of bikes and falling up the airplane stairs for years.
