Yeah I just don’t think having a kid under the premise “well you can kill yourself later” is a really great argument. And they’re not really letting us kill ourselves humanely anyway - Medical Assistance in Dying laws are still incredibly restrictive and they actively prosecute people who sell alternatives.

Just because I find joy in life I can’t force that on other people. We all have different perspectives.

I look at it like joy is not guaranteed. The only thing that is guaranteed through life is suffering and death.

I don’t need to have kids for survival and we have too many people already. Why guarantee suffering in another person.