Sadly my Right Wing friends insist it’s “Just the Heritage Foundation” and that the “REAL” GOP already rejects it
So naive…
Right Wing
friends
There’s a tough one right there.
No conservative voter thinks poorly of Project 2025. Every conservative in the U.S. is either fine with it or excited about it.
A conservative who pretends it’s not their platform is lying, either to placate you or to save face.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation, even when those words come from friends or family.
I heard an NPR listening, CNN watching person tell me yesterday that the Heritage Foundation was conservative extremists and not to take them seriously.
I wouldn’t… if they weren’t the ones writing policy
My family is pretty politically aware and my brother only just started talking about it, so it will take a bit for word to spread.
Just learning what this is - and it honestly sets off my BS detector.
Seems like a great way to other people who support any kind if conservative position.
Not American though, so it’s hard to even tell if shit like this is real from the outside…
Our conservatives aren’t like conservatives elsewhere in the world. Our liberals are like your conservatives, policy wise.
Our conservatives are brainwashed by four decades of targeted conservative media that’s explicitly designed to keep them in an anger loop in order to create a political climate where republicans (who are the actual politicians) don’t have to appeal to the conservative base with actual policy.
Republicans, through channels like Fox News and OANN (seriously, go watch some of it and see what we’re dealing with here) have demonized everyone to the left of them so hard that entire generations of conservatives genuinely believe that there’s a bloody revolution coming.
It would be nice if it were actually bullshit, but these lunatics who make up half of our voting population put a con-man entertainer with zero political experience in the whitehouse for four years and installed conservative justices to our highest court who are systematically dismantling our democracy.
It’s very real. It’s so real that some of the less insane conservatives are waking up to how dangerous the details of this plan actually are, and that’s why Republicans are panicking about this.
It’s real
It’s real.
The Heritage Foundation is wild, and one of the most significant public policy groups with deep ties to American conservatism. Basically, any crazy policy that the Republican party has taken on as a major party plank in the past 50 years has a distressing high chance of having its roots in Heritage’s recommendations.
For example, in 1981:
Among the 2,000 Heritage policy recommendations, approximately 60% of them were implemented or initiated by the end of Reagan’s first year in office.
Trump World sounds like the shittiest theme park. Even worse than that Willy Work Experience.
Did the Epstein island rebrand?
Oh gods. An Epstein island, but instead of underage girls, it’s all Trump doppelgangers.
If they’re very small and kickable this might be cool.
Orange, small, and kickable? So just the Wonka experience again?
BS. This is exactly what Rump world wants. They love consolidation of power, Christian nationalism, and taking power away from non-white men. They are worried that centrist and moderate red voters will hear about it.
It’s the finer points, like SS and Medicaid that they would worry about. People care when it hits their wallet in a way that isn’t hidden behind taxes.
I mean, whatever gets the low information voters’ attentions.
“BS” then goes to repeat what the headline says.
I’m sure they also love the part where social services are cut and retirement age increased!
That’s the kind of shit that will make someone rethink their choices.
That’s what the headline was about?
Tell me about it. Weird tone of writing for a comment completely aligned with the article.
That’s not true! Their comment reinforced the same ideas in the linked article.
BS. I totally agree with you.
Circulate
Lmao, how does they slipped “defund the police” there on plain sight
What are you referencing?
Page 133
The graphic doesn’t say defund the police that I see.
The FBI and DHS are federal police.
Are they? If so… cool semantics, you pain in the ass?
The FBI is literally the federal equivalent to state police. So anything that violates federal rather than state law or involves a crime crossing state lines.
Defund Police when used by left is a poorly named refrain for “police reform”.
When MAGA uses it they mean “defund police literally so that we can’t get charged with shit, and the ghettos get worse.”
Whoever added the citations to this is doing extremely important work. It needs to be finished though.
What does pg mean?
Page
Be the change you want to see in the world
These kinds of projects are good for crowd sourcing. Nobody has read all 900 pages, and watched all the speeches and read all the articles, etc etc. But the community taken together, can. Or at least come much closer anyway.
Except that those page numbers don’t all seem to match those statements.
Yeah, it’ll be important to check the work.
How is continue to pack the supreme court “happening rn”? I wish Biden was doing that but…
Assuming the poster meant “Get SCOTUS to engage in our fuckery”
I’ve said it many times, I wish the boogeyman Democratic party that exists in Republicans’ fevered imaginations was real. They get shit done.
I’ve been skimming through the listed page numbers so maybe I missed it but where in pg 545-581 does it talk about “[ending] marriage equality”? That whole section seems to be talking about the FBI and DOJ
Are you going by the page numbers on the pdf file, or at the bottom of the page? There’s several blank pages so they don’t match up
I’ve been trying actual page numbers since those are what matched up at first
Edit: I haven’t extensively gone through it all yet. Are they mixed between page numbers and pdf page numbers?
Not sure, I’m going to dig through it some more later.
I will say this guide cites page 449 a few times but I didn’t see where it actually says any of the stuff in the guide on page 449. I haven’t fully read it yet.
This is what’s killing me. When our ‘news’ turns out to look like propaganda, it hurts our cause. There is enough bad. It doesn’t need to be exaggerated.
Exactly this. If the pages listed do not support the claims it helps Trump in the end.
Nice website, bro:
Oof, gotem
What the fuck, people are JUST NOW hearing about this??
A couple days ago, new evidence came out about Trump’s pedophilia. I have yet to hear about it in mainstream media.
Jane Doe vs Trump & Epstein. All of the corroborating depositions are out there. Nobody cares for some reason.
About goddamn time. We heard more about Hunter Biden’s dick than how Trump rapes kids the last seven years.
The media wants Trump back in power. He generated so many clicks for them.
Afaik, it’s not really that clear.
I mean, it’s pretty clear Trump was very close with Epstein, and that already paints a very bad picture, but it seems like the whole Jane Doe case never got anywhere, and no one is sure she even exists.
Never underestimate how uninformed people are.
Plenty of them are informed, and DGAF.
Tribalism and decades right wing propaganda mean that they’ll vote for anyone on the GOP ticket, even when they are clearly terrible and debatably conservative.
I was so naive so as to think there was no way we’d elect Trump.
Now I just assume we’ll do the dumbest thing on offer.
Trump got too many votes in 2016, and even more than that in 2020, and you’re surprised at how uninformed American voters are?
Our press is too busy with far more important issues than Trump’s advisors plotting a fascist takeover of the country. You know, like Biden being old.
The fix news affect. My mother thought all of these policies were coming from democrats, for some fucking reason
You’d be surprised at just how little the average voter knows about politics.
Indeed. Pretty much everyone I know over the age of 50 gets all of their news from Fox/CNN and maybe facebook. They’re oblivious and make up the majority of the people that actually go and vote.
The thing that pisses me off the most about Project 2025 is that there’s no Project 2029 from the left.
Why would the left wait until 2029?
The left shouldn’t wait. It should have started years ago.
Project 2025 didn’t start yesterday. https://web.archive.org/web/20230920110555/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/20/us/politics/republican-president-2024-heritage-foundation.html
It didn’t even start in 2023. That’s the culmination of years of planning.
GUERILLA WARFARE AND SPECIAL FORCES OPERATIONS: FM 31-21 https://a.co/d/0eNL71EZ
Clicks on link thinking it’s a Rick Roll
Pleasantly surpised it’s a genuine US Army Manual on Guerilla Warfare and Special Forces
They were proud of it up until not long ago, trusting to the ignorance of the “average American” about policy details. Then the Supreme Court ruling came.
I heard everyone gets free donuts for life
Okay, they won me over
If he is elected, they won’t keep trying to pretend that they are against these positions.
Even the right wingers are pretending like it’s nothing.
Not even arguing
Of course they think Doogie Howser is the good guy in that scene.
Yeah, I thought that was him. He’s gay BTW. I wonder if those conservatives know that.
What a bunch of idiots. A group funded by their politicians that frequently provides them with “model” legislation now has a manifesto regarding how to overthrow democracy and we’re supposed to believe it’s no big deal.
Fascists know what they’re doing when they gaslight you.
Please, weaponize this! I know the last place you want to go is a Fox News comment section or FB posts but these people need to see how they will be personally affected to.
Weaponize the cuts to social security and medicare as much as you can. Yes, lots of conservatives are a lot cause. But I’m not asking you to reach them on the moral issuds, I’m asking to get them rightfully scared of losing social security and medicare/medicaid. Make it personal.
They also need to know they don’t need to vote for anyone. It’s perfectly valid to leave the space blank if they are not comfortable voting for Biden.
The option exists to not vote straight R, and no one will ever know. They can vote Biden and vote R for everything else, and still pretend they voted for Trump.
Better to try to get them not to vote at all I think. Push that and it might convince them to go vote when they might possibly have been willing not to. And other offices are also very important.
We can all pretend to have so much outrage over Biden and his debate. Clearly the last four years in office of him doing a great job mean nothing, only that debate mattered. No way we can vote anymore, my fragile liberal heart couldn’t take it!
Project 2025 has been around for years. How have people not noticed it?
The news refused to cover it until people made it a big deal online.
It’s how it always works.
Because republican voters don’t pay attention to what their party is doing. They only know that trans bad, brown bad, gay bad
That’s actually quite right. Google single issue voter
Don’t forget helping the poor bad. I’m pretty sure they hate the poor more than any other category. They don’t help the poor, just like american jesus intended.
conservatives help the poor by personal, direct giving. there’s lots of data on charitable giving broken down by party affiliation.
Regressives only give to people selectively. The statement above reminds me of the Sikh family that moved to my hometown in the early 80’s when I was a kid. They came to take over a gas station that one of their family members had recently bought. They were the only sikh in town. All kinds of names thrown at them like towel heads, sand n*****r and so on. A unofficial but damn near complete boycott of the gas station commenced. Their kids were treated like shit at school by nearly everyone bar the Catholics who were mostly Hispanic. I was eye witness to that part. The station was not making enough money and rather than ask their family for help they finally reached out for help feeding their kids to a local food bank that was christian in everything but name but were rejected. They however stuck it out and finally after thirty years or so sold it to a regressive couple who promptly ran it into the ground after embezzling lottery money.
The only family from India who owned both motels were treated fairly well, to their face at least.
So go on tell me how giving regressives are.
Which usually includes implied “follow my religious beliefs to be eligible.” A big difference between personal giving and allowing a social safety net is the decision to limit who gets your money. Which I do get; I want my team dollars going to stuff that helps everyone, like welfare, education, transportation, etc, not to military industrial complex or subsidies for already massive and union busting billionaires.
Still, on the conservative side it tends to aim more towards extremely limited targets, usually filtered through a lens of bigotry.
Reminds me of that early South Park episode with Starvin Marvin. “Open your bibles, everyone…Bible = Food!”
They don’t help the poor, just like american jesus intended.
Speaking if which:
Or many republican voters do know about project 2025 and they like it.
It’s a long manifesto. If you stop reading after 3 pages, it hit all the buttons of a usual Republican. The real crazy is spared for later.
There’s some of those, sure, but this shit like banning contraceptives, banning no fault divorce, attacking Medicare and social security-these are universally unpopular policies. That’s why trump is trying to pretend his campaign didn’t literally write this shit.
The conversations I’ve had in the Deep South with Republicans always boil down to: they have no idea.
I have found that the best way to argue with republicans is to tell them directly what they’re actually voting for, because they don’t know. They’re either dumb as shit, or they’re greedy and think democrats will raise taxes.
It’s banning porn.
Might as well ban anti-depr… oh right they’re getting rid of Medicaid, so they basically are for me.
I wish i could talk to some. The few i know are work friends so i don’t want to go there with them. In the very few conversations we’ve had they try to talk about the economy/stock market.
The positions that a lot of the trump supporters take up are whatever they all mutually agree are their positions, and/or whatever they are told is their position du jour… in other words, today they may say that they are pro one thing and con a different thing, but their loyalty is to the party, not to the merits of the positions they espouse.
The moment they were told that they no longer feared and hated Russia, they started saying “you know that Putin guy isn’t so bad after all”, as if the Cold War never happened, as if their perceived greatest enemy for the last 50 years wasn’t Russia and communism.
A lot of them hated Jews too until they were told that their side supports Israel.
It’s straight out of 1984… “We were always at war with Eastasia.”
They will easily adopt the project 2025 positions if that’s what their god emperor tells them to do.
A lot of them hated Jews too until they were told that their side supports Israel.
They still do hate Jews. They just consider Israel to be a convenient solution to their “Jew problem”. Not to mention that it’s the sort of ethnostate a lot of them would really like to create themselves.
Dont forget socialists,l - they’re after their money they might earn if they just worked harder or won the lottery.
They only do or care what fox “news” tells them to. They lack critical thinking and empathy.
Because on its surface it sounds like something the magas would make up.
It is something they made up. That’s what plans are.
