It’s not a waste if I’m getting paid to do it full time
I wish I could do that
At least 10 percent of my time sitting in a classroom in college was waiting for the prof to get the projector to work with their laptop.
So far I am lucky enough to have not had any classes that have had the issue of a professor not being able to get their projector or computer to work.
Closest I had was the Linux VMs we were using for a Linux fundamentals class were having troubles because someone gave them too much resources by accident (I think it was memory but I don’t fully remember), causing them to sometimes just stop working because there wasn’t enough for every VM. Somehow persisted pretty much the whole quarter before being figured out.
Using the word “we” loosely.
That’s why I only use mentats.
“Up to 20%” is meaningless for a headline and is pure click bait. It could be any number between 0% and 20%. Or put another way, any number from no time at all to a horrifying more than an entire day per week.
Why not just state the average from what is probably a statistically irrelevant study and move on?
53% of my time is spent looking for CASE statements without an END. This is 99% human error - does that count?
Developers: Those are rookie numbers
I’m going for the high score!
I’m an IT engineer, 100% of my time is spent on computer problems.
I’m a home server hobbyist. I like to think of them as computer solutions.
You don’t eat, sleep or go to the bathroom?
Someone call Harrison Ford, we have a replikant!
That number was more like 30% with a windows laptop and all the security crap Microsoft convinced my company to install. It was so painfully slow and glitchy. So I went rogue and put Linux on my company laptop 8 months ago and I’m not looking back.
Yep. Over here running Fedora KDE 40 on my desktop, dealing with zero issues. My use case is pretty simple, but everything I use just works, no issues.
If your use case is “pretty simple,” you’re unlikely to have problems with any operating system.
In my case I’m a manager so I don’t do any real work. Linux is great for an Edge browser, ms365 paper pushing wana be engineer.
How about everyone who has zero skills with these problems, do they count is 0% spent on them as they outsource it or do they count as 100% since the smallest problem incapacitates their computer usage?
With focused R&D, we can make it 70%!
I’m a homelabber. If you want notes or a flow chart let me know.
This hits me right in the DIY NAS.
I’ve gotten to a tight, taut 82% by trying to make all the mods I cram into video games not shit themselves all over my PC
Jokes on you! My whole life is a waste of time
Linux users brings the numbers up
Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior Fedora Silverblue?
I spend literally no time at all dealing with my OS.I’m literally dealing with an update issue with this distro lol
To he fair, it was perfect, literally perfect, until now. And even now, it’s not unbootable, since I can just use the previous image point. Just sucks I can’t update.
You affected by this by any chance?
Was a quick fix for me on Bazzite.
I installed the official silverblue, but it does seem like the same problem. Does this fix also work on the official silverblue?
Oh, sorry. I missed that part. I think this was just for uBlue images which doesn’t include Silverblue… I think.
O, well, shoot haha
Back to the search for me :)
I can’t tell if you are joking. But just in case, my installation worked flawlessly for years.
I mean, that’s fine, but as a Linux user I’ve fucked around a lot and spent a lot of time fixing mistakes that I did not need to make.
I think I’m a pretty average Linux user. Who needs something that “just works” when you can break it by trying to add something you don’t need?
Yaa arch BTW guys!!
All 0.4% of the user base or whatever it is? Unless you mean among the population of server admins.
Hey, all of those problems are entirely because of my own incompetence.
Once everything is set up properly it just works tbh. Meanwhile in windows updates broke something every other time.
Really? Because I updated and my wine prefix just broke. That was yesterday.
Skill issue. I don’t update the wine binaries I use for my most used prefix. I use https://github.com/Kron4ek/Wine-Builds/releases I may setup a new one eventually and just migrate the data tho. Maybe once a year, so once per major release of wine.
I see, I was holding it wrong
This is so not true unless you are using some super stable old Debian release and aren’t doing complex work.
Most DEs are super buggy, especially the darling child kde, which right off the bat makes things not super stable.
Additionally some of the most loved distros are rolling release and inherently unstable.
Hell, I use multiple distros daily, fedora and slackware, I also use windows for work, windows is by and large more stable in my experience.
Slackware has kernel panics monthly, kde crashes on fedora, Wayland has too many problems to count, meaning I have to switch to x sessions all the time.
Most GUI software I use has tons of visual glitches.
Yes it’s tolerable, that’s why I still use it, but I wouldn’t exactly say it ‘just works’
I would estimate I restart my fedora computer about 4-5 times more often than than the windows computer, and usually I have to restart fedora because of serious hard crashes (e.g. kde crashes so hard that I can’t even switch to a tty, meaning I need to hard reset)
I’ve not had anything like that since… forever. But then I’m not a kde nor fedora user. Naturally raises the question - have you considered switching from kde, fedora or both?
If Linux “just worked” I would have switched years ago. I’ve used several distributions, always preferred Gnome to KDE, and even with “expert” help setting things up, I always spent way more time trying to make things work than actually having things work. Unless it’s a basic-ass workstation being used for minimal computer things or to run a server for something, there’s always something that doesn’t want to work.
I like the idea of Linux more than I actually like using Linux. :/
Fair enough. What stuff do you run on your regular week?
I use KDE on my Linux machine, which means that I cannot develop anything involving the GPU.
The moment I experiment a little with the API or give it wrong parameters, not only my program crashes, but the whole system freezes and I have to manually press the “power off” button.
It does happen in windows too, however it’s 100x less unlikely.
I also had a problem not long ago that crashing my program would not free the RAM, so every time I ran the program (and it crashed), I had 2-3GiB less of RAM. So I had to restart the computer every 10 runs or so.
Operating systems are supposed to isolate programs and manage their resources. A program crashing under no circumstances should affect any other program. I don’t understand how it can happen.
This study was only with 234 people.
“A number of the participants in the survey were IT professionals, while most of the other participants were highly competent IT and computer users. Nevertheless, they encountered these problems, and it turns out that this involves some fundamental functions,”
As someone that works in IT the amount of people I’ve come across that have little to no technical ability to be in that field is staggering. It had a high paycheck so they showed up. Doesn’t make them competent computer users.
Lemmy pointed me to another study a bit ago. It was ~216K people ages 16-65 and multiple countries.
One of the easy tasks was to use the reply-all feature for an email program to send a response to three people
According to that study this is where 43% of the participants skills ended(or didn’t even reach cause I stuck level 0 and 1 together).
This was the most depressing part…
The numbers for the 4 skill levels don’t sum to 100% because a large proportion of the respondents never attempted the tasks, being unable to use computers.
So my above 43% is really 69% of users. That’s where their abilities taper off.
It’s actually simple.
HIG, UX, ergonomics, all that - it doesn’t build up. Acceptable complexity of a pretty mechanical normal 80s’ UI\UX is the same as of a modern one. Humans don’t evolve over decades, they evolve over spans of time which are as good as eternity. They still need the same kind of complexity in tools they use.
A control panel for a loader that a factory worker should be able to use is as complex as a workflow on a computer can be. And that’s very explicitly accounting for the fact that loader’s or lift’s control panel doesn’t change every fucking day and the user remembers it, so computer UIs should be simpler than those of lifts and loaders!
You just don’t make UI\UX more complex than that. There are things humans can learn to do, and there are things they often can’t and they shouldn’t.
The issue is that this creates a bottleneck for clueless project managers, UI designers and such. They can’t throw together some shit in 30 minutes. They have to choose. They have to test. They don’t want that. And no regulation makes them do that, because if a loader has an unclear UI\UX, you might kill someone, while if an email program has that, you’ll just get very nervous.
A control panel for a loader that a factory worker should be able to use is as complex as a workflow on a computer can be. And that’s very explicitly accounting for the fact that loader’s or lift’s control panel doesn’t change every fucking day and the user remembers it, so computer UIs should be simpler than those of lifts and loaders!
I design control panels. I try to keep the workflow consistent not because I see value in it, but because some asshole decided that they didn’t want to pay for retraining. Really I don’t care, having to retool slightly every decade or so is pretty reasonable. Especially given that the tech is always changing.
Especially given that the tech is always changing.
Humans don’t. Changing things is fine, making using them more complex for the same result, because another decade has passed, is not.
It has to get more complicated, more edge cases have popped up and the process is more complicated.
Look basic example. I made an uncoiler and needed to add in a reverse override. Why? Because someone one time loaded it in wrong.
I think we’re all just chasing our tails sometimes
I certainly don’t. If I can’t fix it in 5 minutes, I just ignore the problem. And I wish everyone else would too and stop complaining about the smoke coming out of the machine. It’s fine.
