• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Outcomes, mostly, regarding fascism.

    The consistent argument has been despite the siimilar trajectory the rate is different.

    I guess this comparison sort of demonstrates whether it’ll be a legal or illegal implementation.

  • Agent641@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    The meaning is clear. Dems only have 3 short years in which to rack up a fuckload of crimes, if they want to beat the GOP.

  • StinkySocialist@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Sure. They both benefit from the same situation. Both benefit from the weird electoral system the states have and they both benefit by being one of only two parties. Infact they are almost completely dependent on each other. Once Republican Democrat politicians realized they could get elected by getting people afraid of the opposition instead of excited for their candidate they’ve had this country voting for the lesser of two evils ever since. 🤷

    Both options suck, but the Democrats are slightly better than the Republicans. They both get paid by the same people and they both push forward the same agenda. For example, probably the most left-wing policy we’ve had come out of our countries. Federal government in a long time is Obamacare. But Obamacare was actually thought up by a right-wing think tank called the heritage foundation. It’s a Republican idea that works as bad as other Republican ideas but because it was put forward by a Democrat because who’s going to defend it? The real solution is single-payer universal healthcare like any other non-backwards ass country has. But the Democrats being controlled opposition put Obamacare there instead.

    Hope that helps you understand where other people are coming from. 👈😎 I find the short form memes like that used to strip away. Nuance and “trigger” those who disagree with you to be a very trumpet esque style of memeing.

    • madcaesar@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      You see the problem is that in a system where you only get two choices, you don’t get to say both choices suck, because that is literarily helping the shitter side.

      If you want to fix the system I’m all for it, but today, here, now, we are required to make a choice and the choice is crystal clear, one side is infinitely better than the other.

      It’s not close, it’s not they both are not perfect, this shitty system we have requires us, as adults to vote for one or the other and the Republicans are batshit insane people that literally want to kill women and queer people.

      This is not a matter of coke VS Pepsi, this is a brocoli VS steaming diarrhea.

      • StinkySocialist@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I’m not going to vote for Trump. If my state were a swing state, I’d vote for Biden. I’m going to work on getting us a third option with my vote since im not in a swing state.

        !you don’t get to say both choices suck,!<

        What’s the point of this whole democracy thing if I can’t even say my piece? Like what are we defending if we’re just going to get in line and shut up anyway?

        Anyways the two parties are still basically the same. We deserve an actual left wing party.

  • pastabatman@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I have no idea if these numbers are correct. For me I don’t need any history though. One party is standing behind a guy who has been charged with 91 felony counts in four different jurisdictions and convicted of 34 and counting, and that’s just for stuff he did while in office or as a candidate. He attempted a coup. He fomented a terrorist attack on the Capitol. Still, the Republicans are like, “Yep, that’s our guy!” all while the Democrats tear themselves apart over Biden being old and doing old person things. Yeah it would be nice to have a better option for president, but this is not a difficult decision.

    Please vote, friends!

  • Taohumor@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Since left wingers tend to be obnoxious assholes to anyone who doesn’t mindlessly parrot whatever rhetoric they think u should already know, I just assume they’re as bad as anyone else be cause I tend to prefer people who actually treat me with respect.

    • Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de
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      3 months ago

      Yeah because if there is one thing right wingers are known for, its an active debateculture that resists everyone stepping in line

      Lol

    • beebarfbadger@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      You want to be treated with respect? What snowflakey whining is this? Need a safe space, liberal crybaby? Fuck your feelings! Real conservatives grab others by the genitals when- and wherever they feel like it (when you’re rich, they let you do it). A cage is good enough when you rip apart families seeking asylum! Get outta here with your communist tree-hugging fascist rules and regulations on how I am to behave.

      Sorry, I was possessed by the spirit of the right wing’s leader slash all of his propaganda mouthpieces there for a minute. What I parroted there wasn’t very respectful. Nobody should ever say that to anybody else.

    • Th3D3k0y@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      You mean the entire other wing that calls people “snowflakes” when someone asks them to please not be complete self-centered asshats? Those people that treat you with respect when you don’t parrot their rhetoric instead?

  • SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    This is pretty meaningless if it doesn’t include which levels are counted. Is this just congress? Is it the national level? Does this include the state and local levels? Without proper context this turns from an insightful piece of information to propaganda.

  • Hikermick@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    This isn’t true. Off the top of my head I can think of at least two democrats who’ve been sentenced to prison. I vote democratic party 99% of the time and I don’t disagree with the premise but I don’t want like-minded folks going around with bad info

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    There’s only one thing the gop loves more than LOUD projection and that’s abusing kids. The party of the grand ol’ pedophiles

    • NOTE: I’m reaching the character limit on Reddit posts, so here’s a website with a list of about 1000 of these republican shit stains on humanity.
  • nul42@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    I’m actually confused because I know Jesse Jackson Jr. did a prions sentence of 2 and a half years for wire and mail fraud and Anthony Weiner did 18 months for sexual offenses. Frank Ballance was sentanced to 4 years for money laundering and mail fraud and William J. Jefferson was sentanced to 13 years for bribery. Jim Traficant was sentanced to 8 years for financial corruption. Which one of these is the 1 prison sentence?

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Who knows? There’s no citation as far as I can tell.

      Its not like we don’t have Bob Menendez pending trial for smuggling gold bars down his pant legs or Henry Cueller queued up for $600k in bribery charges (both of which are apparently fine, according to the GOP aligned SCOTUS…)

      But you’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel when your case for a 2024 candidate slate requires you to call back to the Keating Five and Abscam.

      • nul42@lemmy.ca
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        3 months ago

        I need no convincing. There is a Wikipedia page on this topic and its mostly Republicans listed there but plenty of Democrats as well so the meme really makes no sense to me. AI generated perhaps.

  • neidu2@feddit.nl
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    3 months ago

    With Bill and Donald, is the impeachment count the same, or are there others?

    • paholg@lemm.eeEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Trump was impeached twice to Clinton’s once. Also, Nixon resigned to avoid impeachment if you want to count that.

      • neidu2@feddit.nl
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        3 months ago

        I have to rule on a technicality with Nixon and say that it doesn’t count, leaving the Republicans with only twice as many impeachments. Lucky for them Obama wore a tan suit in public, otherwise the final score would’ve been really lopsided.

  • hark@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    They both serve the rich first and foremost which is a critical issue for them to be “both sides” on. Yes, republicans are worse, but that doesn’t make democrats good.

    • Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      No party that “served the rich” would’ve even let people like Bernie into the party, let alone give them committee assignments and let them run for president on their ticket.

      There’s no point in arguing that the Democratic Party is entirely controlled by the rich other than to encourage political nihilism. It has always been possible and always will be possible to beat wins out of (or even change/become) the party establishment through concerted effort and activism, as happened in the 30s, the Civil Rights Era, and the purging of the Blue Dogs after the Civil Rights era.

      Bernie’s losses were disheartening, but abandoning any effort to sway the democrats and writing them off as “servants of the rich” when the decade before 2016 had been one of growing progressivism within the party and when Bernie unfortunately never even beat Hillary in a Dem Primary Poll, is the political equivalent of taking your ball and going home.

      Bash on the DNC and NDC all you want, but until we replace them with progressives like was done to the segregationist dems or lose doing so, there’s no point in writing off the Democratic Party.

      • hark@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        That they fought harder to stop Bernie from getting the nomination twice than they ever fought against trump speaks volumes. Just because they allow progressives to do a few minimal things, doesn’t mean the party does not serve the rich first and foremost. This is like how freedom of speech is allowed until it becomes a threat to the establishment (see pro-Palestinian protests that were shut down with bullshit excuses). When the possibility arose that Bernie could make actual significant change, the party threw a shitfit.

        The democratic party will never be replaced with progressives because their donors won’t allow it.

        • Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          That they fought harder to stop Bernie from getting the nomination twice than they ever fought against trump speaks volumes.

          I don’t remember almost every single Democrat bashing Bernie publicly every single time they had the chance like most democrats did with Trump for the last 8 years. Are you not remembering the firestorm of statements from elected officials anytime Trump did something horrific?

          The democratic party will never be replaced with progressives because their donors won’t allow it.

          I bet Malcom X and the Segregationist Democrats would’ve felt the exact same, and yet that last set of reactionary Dems has been completely purged from the party since the 60s.

  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.eeEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Both parties are capitalist and support First Past the Post voting in the states they control.

    Of course there are differences, don’t you want more differences?

    Think the Republicans getting control in government is a existential threat? Then you should be open to using every and any tool available to fight this from becoming reality. That means taking a big gulp, and considering that perhaps the democrats don’t have what it takes to take on the Republicans.

    So democrats need backup! They need help out there on that debate stage to fight Trump. We need to bring in outside perspectives with fresh ideas in the form of more viable political parties in the voting booth.

    This means we must do away with First Past The Post voting in each and every state in democratic control. Republican ones as well, but at the very least they have an excuse as to why they use a mathematically flawed voting system that doesn’t represent everyone. What is the excuse blue states?

    Time to set aside your pride democrats. Perhaps you really aren’t the future in the USA. You do want a future in the United States of America right? Would you be willing to risk your beloved democratic party not being relevant any longer to save this nation? I’d say, thats going to happen either way. Either the Republicans win it all, or we find a way around this massive blue roadblock of a political party.

    So you may as well do the right thing, and implement Ranked Choice voting in your state before the door hits you on the ass on your way out.

    Political parties are not the USA, the people are. We can set ourselves free with state level electoral reform. Now.