Except the Dems convention hasn’t happened yet and there’s still plenty of time to hire Batman a great butler who’s still capable…
Joker only has a chance if we run Alfred and he loses. We don’t have to run Alfred.
So if you want to do everything you can to stop Joker, Alfred needs to step aside and endorse his replacement
Who is that going to be though? There’s no one. Traditionally it might be the current VP, but everyone hates Kamala because she’s shit. There is no one else, it’s Biden or my dumb ass cat, at least my cat will get the ‘cute and doesn’t shit in the plants’ vote. Unbelievably my cat would still lose to a rapist and felon.
My dumb cat would work. As long as they don’t have a sex scandal and has some decent legislative record, they’d be fine.
“Reporting is now showing that Hello_theres’s cat is on camera taking multiple kickbacks from fishing industry insiders back in 1996”
She is shit because she was given the platform of VP with the sole job of developing name recognition as the next candidate, yet many of us have a worse opinion of her than we started with
I know VPs should generally be silently partners but this is the one time we needed one who succeeded at any initiative
She was involved in the slave trade known as the “justice system” and proud of it. She’s one of them.
I don’t think it really matters why. People don’t like her.
Also, every Democrat, including Biden, seems to do the same against Trump based on polling. (I know polling is hard to trust, but we have no other way of measuring things at present.)
Why do people keep linking data for progress after last election?
Their founder openly said the point of his company was to come up with polls that make donors happy.
Then he got caught trying to use his polls to influence elections so his bets would win, and was trying to get employees involved in an illegal straw do or scheme.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_for_Progress
Seriously, because no one will answer after posting that poll:
Why would anyone use them for a source still?
Is it just one of the few things that make Biden seem like a good choice?
Seriously, because no one will answer after posting that poll:
Here’s me not answering:
Why would anyone use them for a source still?
Because I had never read that Wikipedia link.
Is it just one of the few things that make Biden seem like a good choice?
Nope. Biden is a bad choice, but he is likely to be the only choice regardless and if he is, he should be voted for because the other option is a dictatorship and a genocide of queer people.
See?
We opened a dialog and you realized the source your using is wildly unreliable and we shouldn’t care what they say.
We got there thru civility and logic.
Everyone wins.
but he is likely to be the only choice
He doesn’t have to be. Biden is the only choice the people he appointed to lead the DNC will let us have.
The party is a private organization and can do anything they want including disregarding an entire primary. The DNC literally argued this in court less than a decade ago, and the judge agreed.
You can say that the DNC won’t replace Biden because they’d rather risk trump than lose control of the party.
But you can’t just lie and say there’s nothing that can be done.
I was really amused how you banned me from A Boring Dystopia for “incivility” after I asked you yes or no questions and you called me a bully. It’s too bad it’s a permanent ban or I’d ask you to undo it and do it again tomorrow. I could use all the laughs I can get right now.
You very silly person.
Everyone I know who despises Kamala Harris is politically to the left of her
“Fweedom”
Who is that going to be though? There’s no one
Thereby currently no one because the DNC has forbidden all the ones. There’s at least a dozen Democrats who could jump in tomorrow and have better chances than Biden by the week after next.
everyone hates Kamala because she’s shit.
Not as much as they hate Biden now. Whether on purpose or not, they’ve been wise to mostly keep her in the shadows so everyone could forget how awful and fake she is and also to lessen the Biden stink on her.
it’s Biden or my dumb ass cat
I’d vote for your cat over Biden or the Mango Mussolini in a heartbeat. Not even joking.
Who is that going to be though?
I used to type a lot for these, but they constantly come up.
So at this point: AOC
People have been bringing her up for years, but she is still not eligible. The president must be 35.
She was born in October.
You have to be 35 to assume office in January, not run for election.
That would be great, but she’s too divisive to win.
That’s what they said about Obama too…
But the first Black president got elected by flipping lots of red states even when his own party turned against him.
As already pointed out she’s not eligible, or maybe is, idk. She would be 35 by inauguration.
My ticket would be her, Bernie, and Ron Wyden somewhere in the mix so the u.s. could get some decent privacy laws.
or maybe is, idk
She literally is…
Like, it’s not an opinion thing, she’s literally old enough to be our next president…
Am I missing something?
| Born | October 13, 1989 (age 34)
be at least 35 years old
She’s not 35 is she?
Terrible analogy.
This is the goddamn DNC’s fault. They are allergic to supporting anyone that’s not an old school establishment Democrat.
Give us a suitable candidate. Biden is too old and everyone knows it.
Give us someone that is actually progressive and that actually wants to help the American people. We have a few very obvious issues that neither of our geriatric overlords are addressing.
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ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. This is the most important one. Just do something. Anything. Nothing is being done and it’s getting hotter every year.
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Lower the cost of living. Rent is out of control. Food costs are out of control. It’s hard to live right now. Protect US citizens from corporate greed.
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Fix the real estate market. Most of us will never be able to own a house because several corporations have been allowed to run amok. Make it so the average person can buy a house.
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Healthcare for all. It’s not complicated.
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Stop the genocide.
Put someone forward with this obvious and simple platform, and I promise they win.
We are not married to Biden. Get us someone younger. Why is this so hard?
Primaires are over. That was the time to select the DNC candidate.
Fucking thank you. I agree with every single one of these things
Wanna run for president? I’ll vote
- During Biden’s first term, we’ve made several of the biggest steps toward addressing climate change, ever
- Biden has made huge steps, despite congressional opposition, in making education and healthcare more affordable
- The real estate and rental prices are local, and some of us live where our local politicians are at least trying
Yeah, Biden has done a lot of really good shit. The president only has so much power.
It’s a joke. Not an analogy lol
You did have someone younger. DURING THE PRIMARIES WHEN THIS DECISION WAS MADE. PAY ATTENTION.
Or perhaps you didn’t like the younger man’s decisions.
So then maybe age alone doesn’t hold all the answers to everyone’s problems as you’d have us all believe.
Who did you have on your primary ballot? Mine was Biden and No Preference
Your mom
I would vote for scops mom over biden
Because for someone to get elected, they need more than just YOUR vote, David.
There are millions of voters that might agree with points 1,2,3 and 4, but don’t think it’s a genocide. They won’t vote for your guy.
Millions more agree with 1,2,3 and 5. But your guys ideas on Healthcare is a non-starter. More lost votes.
See where I’m going here? Your guy didn’t even say a WORD about abortion rights, immigration, gun laws, unemployment, inflation, global war and terrorism, technology threats, the economy, tariffs, and so much more.
It’s not the DNCs fault. Do you know how the Republicans made abortion illegal again? They attacked it year after year, and nobody on the left defended it. We just sit in message boards passively crying “Give us a suitable candidate!!”
ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE.
that’s our job. government is not going to solve this. wanna make change for the better? start training for guerilla warfare.
What are we as individuals supposed to do? I can only cut down on my polluting so much. My ability to do so is severely limited by the options available to me which are decided by corporations.
Especially cause it’s a myth that regular people have all the power when it comes to climate change. Most of the issues come directly from factories that could be doing better to minimize toxic waste and pollution but instead they spend billions lobbying to make it okay.
Yea, I can cut down on my driving, try not to be wasteful, and look for less plastic packaging and all that but that all depends on what options are available to me. If I need something and all the options are in the worst packaging possible or they sell electronic garbage that breaks after a year because the company doesn’t care then it’s out of my hands.
Yea, at the end of the day my only solace is that I’m not having kids and neither are my siblings so I don’t have to worry about the planet being fucked for them. Don’t get me wrong i’ll still do everything I can for our youth and I’m a punk at heart but I won’t lose too much sleep over it.
Yea, I’m not interested in having kids either. Which now that I think of it is a pretty good benefit for the environment too as I’m cancelling out all my potential descendants emissions.
start training for guerilla warfare
They weren’t talking about blindly following the system. You won’t fix the problem from inside the problem.
Guerilla warfare against who? The people causing climate change don’t live in jungles.
Run, I’ll vote for you, hell id run on that platform exactly if I had a few million for campaigning.
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I like how Democrats always frame this as the only two choices. They really, REALLY want to lose.
But due to the first-past-the-post system, these are the only two options. The primaries are when you choose the candidates, and the election is when you choose the winner of the candidates. That’s the system you have. You really need to switch to a preferential voting system if you want to have more than two options in the presidential election.
I’ve wanted Biden to croak and the party be forced to get behind Kamala sooo bad. Boom, younger candidate, female, minority(Indian mother, Jamaican father) incumbent that can be elected 2 more times. Maybe the plan is for it to happen next term? Idk. I don’t know a single thing she’s done besides be a VP, but damn give me someone who doesn’t look like they gonna die any second.
Kamala isn’t very likeable, and I saw a recent interview (about Biden’s debate performance) where she acted pretty unhinged. She talked at Anderson Cooper like he was a child, had a wierd speech cadence, and smiled psychotically.
Only thing I know about her is she was a DA and prosecuted a lot of people for cannabis.
I’m actually not sure if she’d have a better chance at winning than Biden.
If, somehow, Biden wins, I’d bet she’d be president soon after. Rumors are Biden’s sundowning, and isn’t very coherent after 3pm. That’s only going to get worse, forcing him to step-down (or one would hope).
Harris would probably be a status-quo (i.e. actual conservative) president. Not good, but not as bad as a fascist president.
It’s this endless litany of “Just because our guy sucks…” and I can’t imagine what that message is going to do to turnout in three months
It’s way easier to run a campaign this way, though. Who wants to acknowledge that the US issues are structural and require solutions that would go against the lobbyists and donors’ best interests?
You have a better solution for tens of millions of voters to organize behind in the next 4 months?
They had 4 years to light l find and line someone else up. Biden’s age isn’t a surprise that snuck up on anyone
Soooo no other solutions? Gotcha, I’ll stick with the plan to vote Biden and let Harris take over if he steps down.
So as an individual you have 4 options:
1- vote for Biden: democrats maintain the current path as that’s literally what’s happening now
2- vote Trump: either they maintain their current path or democrats have to pivot
3- vote third party: if that party gets enough votes one of the main parties will catwr to the messaging of that party to take those voters in the next cycle as it’s an easy win
4- don’t vote: if enough people don’t vote they’ll cater more to them next cycle but that’s harder to aim in the direction you’d want to promote.
Is that a good enough breakdown? So if I were to rank my options I’d go for 3,4,2,1
You’ve said that choosing options 3, or 4 will send a message to change party opinions for the next cycle. But the message it sends is ambiguous at best. It could be interpreted to mean that people are unhappy with the system and demand change; but it could also mean that people are indifferent, or disengaged, or ill-informed, or have been prevented / dissuaded from exercising their right to vote. Or perhaps it could be interpreted on policy grounds: perhaps votes are unhappy with genocide… or perhaps not, perhaps they are war-hungry. Perhaps want stricter rules to control anti-social behaviour … or the opposite.
If you don’t vote at all, your message is basically just noise. It communicates nothing, because whatever message you think it sends it could also be sending the opposite. Voting third-party would be less bad, except that many third parties are exist disingenuously as a tactical way to split votes, to increase the change of victory for the party of opposite values to what the third party purports to represent.
What are the chances enough people voting decide in the next 4 months to vote 3rd party or sit out moreso than vote Biden/Trump?
It’s unfair to compare Trump to the Joker. The Joker is a strategic and tactical and logistical genius, he didn’t inherit his position from “Papa Clown Show” and pretend to be good at what he does.
Or you could run someone who doesn’t have their foot half in the grave.
Doing away with First Past The Post voting will allow us to choose a different, better option.
But you also don’t have Alfred as the one suiting up to fight the Joker either.
Yeah, this analogy just stinks, as a comic book fan…
Yea, clearly trump is more like lex Luther…
Sorta, Lex was a successful business owner.
The failed lex Luther
More like victor zsasz vs the joker lmao
A joker who is just as old as Alfred.*
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This is the best argument I’ve seen so far, which is sad. They should run on this message. Also sad.
Where the fuck is Batman anyway?
In one universe, Alfred was the Joker.
Which comic is that? It sounds familiar.
Thanks! I remember reading that ages ago!
