• small44@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    They are just afraid that it’s going to have a massive toll on israel. They couldn’t care less about what will happen to non ally countries

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      6 months ago

      Rightfully so. Actually Nato and Ukraine would massively benefit when Israel shoots Iran into oblivion. However the possibility of nukes getting involved is there.

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      6 months ago

      Israel can’t even genocide Gaza on their own…

      If they start a war at the same time, they’ll lose immediately if they don’t drag America into it.

      And Biden has spent 50 years saying that no matter what happens, he’ll never stop or even slow support to Israel.

      Iran is allied with Russia and other local governments in the 4+1 treaty, so trump would likely join against Israel.

      Either way, the US is gonna be involved if it happens, which isn’t a good thing.

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        6 months ago

        But Biden has slowed weapon shipments to Israel, it’s the only thing he can (legally, not politically) do since the aid is mandated by law and his executive power doesn’t extend to negating laws.

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        6 months ago

        People like saying Israel can’t genocide Gazans on their own. They need the US help, just because they say that and they’re getting it. Are you sure they’re not just lying about really needing it, and couldn’t use other, lower-tech methods like starvation or napalm to do it if they were forced to? Or even trebuchets if they really, really felt like it?

        It’s a very tiring line. I understand wanting to pressure the US to halt military assistance, but do not think that would magically save Gaza. Biden has to deal with the harsh reality that it would not, because this isn’t a movie, or a peer-peer war where 1000lb bombs are actually genuinely necessary.

        The IDF would take more casualties without 1000lb bombs 155mm artillery shells, definitely. But that’s it. They are human beings capable of adaptation and problem-solving, and could solve the problem of how to accomplish a goal without enough explosives.

        Now, to fight Hezbollah on the other hand, that’s a pretty big army. Probably do need the big bombs for that.