• solo@slrpnk.net
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    I have to admit I thought RAF Akrotiri was an American base within the British one. By checking it out, you were correct to mention the term “used”. And I was wrong.

    Also, I think what you mentioned earlier is the key element:

    American units are based there

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      Right, but… still not in Cyprus. And this entire thread started off as a question about why Hezbollah would view Cyprus as a target

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        why Hezbollah would view Cyprus as a target

        • Actually, according to Reuters “Nasrallah also threatened Cyprus - the EU member state in closest proximity to Lebanon, with which it has cordial relations - accusing it of allowing Israel to use its airports and bases for military exercises.”

        • In the threat local airports were mentioned, not only military bases

        • If you take a look at the wiki page of RAF Akrotiri they talk about several incidents in support of Israel, starting in the 1970’s. For incidents that specifically involved Lebanon, the answer would be in the sections: 2000s–2010s and Controversies.

        • It could also be hint for other military bases in area, willing to have similar approach

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          RAF Akrotiri is not in the country of Cyprus, it does not explain why Cyprus the country would be a target

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            5 months ago

            Oops I forgot this one

            • Cyprus is not a colony. Not anymore. It’s a country that chooses to have these bases there, and they have to take responsibility for their choices.
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              jesus fucking christ the land that RAF Akrotiri is on is not and has never been part of the political entity that Hezbollah is issuing threats to here. It is not leased from the Cypriot government. There is no arrangement allowing Britain to run a base on Cypriot land. It is just not Cypriot land. You are doing the equivalent of blaming Morocco for something Spain does in Melilla, or blaming Spain for something Britain does in Gibraltar.

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                It is not leased from the Cypriot government.

                Who said anything about a lease?

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                  How about you actually explain your thought process here rather than just continuing to leave sarcastic implications everywhere. Why, exactly, do you think that the country Cyprus is responsible for RAF Akrotiri?

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                    Why, exactly, do you think that the country Cyprus is responsible for RAF Akrotiri?

                    Decolonization processes are difficult. For Cyprus this process started in 1959, if I remember correctly. Within these processes having governments that are in favor of western imperialism does not help towards the ousting western military bases. I’m not saying no genuine effort too place during all these decades. Also, many people have been out on the streets for this, but among Cypriots in reality there is no consensus on the matter since many want to keep all ties with the UK.

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                  Dumbass when Cyprus got independence from the British empire they were not given the areas these bases were and are on. They are still occupied territories, some of the last vestiges of the British empire.

                  The only way to stop the UK from using the bases against anyone would be for Cyprus to go to war with the UK, which they can’t win.

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                  You said something about “choosing”. Cyprus never chose to have the base there, the British chose to keep some land for themselves when they gave Cyprus independence.