I’m not saying the worst, otherwise I would need to include the star wars sequels or transformers movies… Just some really dumb movie that somehow got praised.
For me has to be Ready Player One. That movie message is so “uhuh” obvious that is stupid, the whole nerd that saves the world in a thing that otherwise would be useless to know in real life… The so over the top evil gaming corporation. The whole 80s and 90s movies and games references get old after half an hour… And it’s so pandering towards the geeks and nerds, they really want the viewer feeling really cool for knowing that is the Shining hallway, or that is a Monty python reference… Or look a GUNDAM! YOU’RE SO COOL FOR COLLECTING THOSE GUN PLA! Look we have also overwatch and halo in the background! You’re so cool modern gamer!
Also the obviously attractive “nerd” hacker girl that thinks she’s ugly and deformed for having a small hard to see red tint in one side of her pretty face… Cmon man. In no universe anyone would think that actress is ugly.
And the message at the end is so hilarious: Look man, you’re cool for getting these references and being a real gamer is cool, but go outside more!
Is like the creators have no self awareness.
Ready player one and also Scott pilgrim or whatever its called. That whole “needs are cool, buy funko pops” craze is super cringe.
Out of curiosity, how old are you? I hold up Scott Pilgrim as the Fast Times at Ridgemont High of my generation (older millennials). I could see it not hitting the same for older and newer gens.
Of course it’s a perfectly valid opinion even if we are in the same gen. I’m sure Fast Times had its detractors, too
I’m in that same generation but I like to think I have some taste and am quite able to critique bad writing and stupid stories
Out of curiosity, how many funko pops do you own?
The first Harry Potter was okay, but it just got worse. I’d say the worst was Goblet of Fire. That one should top my list of worst overrated movies.
I’ll go ahead and say it, the first one is a great movie even. It has a particular atmosphere of joy and hopefulness.
Then that entire vibe goes away and it just goes generic dark teenage fantasy with mediocre writing
They were all pretty close to the books except that they cut out a lot of the pointless bickering that kept happening all the time, so I’d blame JK Rowling for those.
Funny cause apparently she had almost entire creative control
Haha yeah goblet of fire was such an odd movie. I don’t even remember the books or if it was the same but that movie made no sense.
My favourite part is how they let these kids fight dangerous dragons, one only didn’t drown because harry broke the rules. They kept saying how dangerous it was, but then at the end everyone was shocked that cedric died. A dead child in the child murder games? That is crazy
Remember, the movie is based on a book written by a women who didn’t had high education and is a book for children… Most things about the universe make no sense.
Frozen was 3 hours worth of movie jammed into 1 and a half hours. So much stuff happens that either didn’t need to happen or needed a lot more setup and motivation. I can understand why little kids liked it, I still have no idea why all the young women liked it too.
The sequel was worse: a hackneyed “elements” magic system and a plot that would only work on a much longer time scale. Too much stuff crammed into too little movie.
I think that Ready Player One was terribly ported from the book format to the movie. The book went so much more over the top than the movie did, the latter turning down on a lot of nerd aspects. Having said that, different formats need different ways for conveying the same idea. The main character would literally get a “+1 blazing sword” in the book. +1. As if it were an MMO or something.
Having said that, Dune (book and movie) were terrible. The movie felt plagued with references to stuff I didn’t get. Only recently did I read the book just to find it was as uninteresting as the movie.
I’ll never forget those opera singers singing right to my ears when a ship would land… Now that’s a way to startle a person.
On the bright side, reading the book has allowed me not see the second part of the movie.
Jurassic World. It seemed like the definition of color by numbers reboot.
La La Land. Musicals are already on thin ice, but a musical about some arrogant, self obsessed people complaining about how hard it is trying to be (and ultimately succeeding in being) successful?? UGH. Shut it all down.
More importantly, >!they just gave up on their relationship because one of them was leaving the country? For what, less than a year? After all that, they just threw it all away because they didn’t want to deal with FaceTime for a couple of months? Bet they felt real fucking dumb when the pandemic hit.!<
Right?! “Oh no we are so brilliant and talented and smoking hot, but the world won’t just give us success on a silver platter and now that we made our dreams come true we miss being together”.
Marvel civil war
There Will Be Blood. Wooden acting, almost nothing happens, the soundtrack is earsplitting noise, but everyone loves it because of the “milkshake” meme at the end.
Fuck that movie. Walked out on it halfway through, read about what “happened” afterwards later (spoiler: fucking nothing) and regret nothing.
James Cameron’s Titanic. It’s marketed as a romantic film, but the moment you start looking at other aspects of the movie, it just seems stupid. The antagonist is so cartoonishly evil, it’s a wonder they didn’t give him a mustache to twirl.
And then there’s the ending. Oh dear lord, the ending. Spoiler warning and all that: at the end of the movie, The Titanic s(t)inks and the passengers try to get to safety. Rose finds a floating door or something to stay afloat and finds Jack swimming in the freezing ocean. Then Jack makes the most non-sensical decision in the entire movie: he sacrifices his own life for no good reason. The plot frames it as a necessary sacrifice, but it totally IS unnecessary, because there was enough room on the stupid door for two people. And then we flash forward to the present, where Rose is old, but still has that gem she wore throughout the movie… and then she tosses it into the ocean. WHY.
Basically the plot boils down to: two young people have a fling on a boat and then the boat sinks. It absolutely did NOT deserve all those academy awards it got that year.
People are STILL bringing up the “there’s enough room” arguments?
The movie LITERALLY shows you why it doesn’t work. At first they both try to climb on it, but they’re too heavy and the stupid thing capsizes. Only then is Jack like “You go take it, Imma good”
Also, Mythbusters tried it and got the same results. 2 people to heavy, 1 ok.
No, the Mythbusters actually proved the door could support two people. At the end James Cameron himself basically throws his hands up, concedes and makes some comment about “whatever, if the script says Jack has to die, Jack is dying.” Rewatch the edpisode if ya don’t believe me
Yes, after the took off their lifebelts and tied them under the door for adden buoyancy.
I think two people, already stressed to their teeth, now also suffering from hypothermia can be forgiven for not having the same presence of mind in that situation
Guess i forgot about that detail, so thanks for the correction. The end results are the same either way though. The door can float 2 but the script says jack has to die, rendering the entire argument pretty moot. James Cameron’s comment was basically “science be dammed, Jack’s drowning.”
I’m sure if Cameron realized that the door of that size, with two life jackets underneath could support two people, he would have written the door to be smaller. It’s ok not to like the film, but this is just CinemaSins level pedantic.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie (and have no desire to see it again) and I don’t remember the scene as clearly, so that’s on me. Throwing away the gem was still colossaly stupid, though.
Your comment is colossally stupid
Dito
Dark Knight trilogy. I firmly think between Nolan and Bale, Batman is forever scared. Every version I’ve seen of Batman sense has been this dark brooding boring character. Oh and that ridiculous voice. “The Batman”, kept dark and brooding but at least he was a detective again. But that trilogy was terrible beginning to end. The slight glimmer of hope is Heath Ledger’s performance which was great but still not enough to carry a trilogy.
What’s it’s like to be so fucking wrong?
Man you’re on fire haha
Sorry you like garbage
Batman has been dark and broody decades before the Nolan trilogy.
There have been lighter versions but dark and broody are basically core qualities of the character
Yeah no. I think you’re confused because Batman Begins came out in 2005 which was decades ago.
If you forgot he’s actually also known as Bruce Wayne and he knows how to smile and have a good time. Any actually cared about the various villains that he fought against. He used to be a clever detective.
Post Nolan he is has lost a lot of complexity. That complexity of the character offset his serious side when the cowl came on.
Look me dead in the eye and tell me Nolan’s Batman is better than BTAS. Or is even in the same ballpark.
Yeah no. I think you’re confused because Batman Begins came out in 2005 which was decades ago.
I’m talking about Batman the character, you know? The one first published in 1939. There have been multiple versions but “dark and broody” has been a pretty common trait
If you forgot he’s actually also known as Bruce Wayne and he knows how to smile and have a good time
No, it’s been well established he cannot get past the trauma of having his parents murdered in front of him. Actually, it has been well established he is now Batman and Bruce is the disguise… So no, he doesn’t really know how to have a good time
Post Nolan he is has lost a lot of complexity. That complexity of the character offset his serious side when the cowl came on.
Not really Nolan’s fault and not what you claimed first either. Batfleck for example was not dark and broody, he was just a fumbling idiot who claimed his superpower was money
Look me dead in the eye and tell me Nolan’s Batman is better than BTAS. Or is even in the same ballpark
Again moving the goal post … What does BTAS have to do with your comment that Nolan made Batman dark and broody??
If anything Nolan had by miles the best live action Bruce Wayne, the whole billionaire airhead mask he created Bruce, the character in that universe is perfect. Nobody would believe that asshole rich dude that showers with top models in a pool inside a restaurant and buys the place in that instant is Batman. It works.
Later version like that hulking dumbass Batfleck or extremely emo Battinson don’t work as well. Also I don’t see what’s so great about Keaton batman, he’s so boring and quiet, with no contrast between Bruce and batman. Then the one scene with emotion is the LET’S GET 🥜 scene but that’s it.
So you just like the new lazy writing. Got it.
Because I know you didn’t just draw a straight line from the 1939 Batman to the current Batman and was like ‘these are the same!’
I’ll go watch my Adam West to Kevin Conroy versions. Where he was a multi-dimensional character. And you can enjoy the more modern one where he glares at people and had been reduced to ‘I’m Batman’. And this is where we part ways. Cuz this is a threat about opinions I gave mine and you are clearly mad that I don’t like your favorite version of Batman.
So you just like the new lazy writing. Got it.
No idea where you are drawing this from
Because I know you didn’t just draw a straight line from the 1939 Batman to the current Batman and was like ‘these are the same!’
Oh I see, you lack reading comprehension. To make it extra clear, having a common trait (what I actually said) does not mean “these are the same”
And this is where we part ways. Cuz this is a threat about opinions I gave mine and you are clearly mad that I don’t like your favorite version of Batman.
I’m not mad at all… Disagreeing with you does not make me your enemy… You care confusing me with yourself lol
Multi dimensional Adam west? LMAO he was either a corny ass rich dude or a corny ass hero. With bad jokes even for the era.
Everything everywhere all at once. The hype made this a let down, it wasn’t even that good and I love weird thought provoking sci fi. This was just a goofy movie that is forgetable
Dark Knight. Heath Ledger’s Career defining performance can’t save this tortuously paced, boring, dreary, washed out slog of a war on terror metaphor. I hate Christopher Nolan, all of his movies are like this.
The star wars prequels get a lot of hate, but honestly, all of the cracks were beginning to show in Return of the Jedi. 4 and 5 are indisputably good movies, and part of the cinematic canon. Jedi has a lot of small things wrong with it… and also Leah is Luke’s sister randomly. This is a Lucasism, and as the people who were capable of standing up to Lucas fell away, and were replaced by people who grew up in star wars. Everything that makes the OT good is present in the prequels, and everything that makes the Prequels… contentious is present in Jedi. For the record, I like the prequels but I think they are flawed in really interesting ways.
Jedi is even in quality with all the prequels and sequels that came after, but has a better rep than it deserves because it stands next to the first (best) two.
return of the jedi is my least favorite, besides rise of skywalker which shit on everything that had been built up. im one of those people that actually enjoyed the last jedi a lot
Never been a fan of the Dark Knight. So damn boring and ridiculously overrated.
Barbie.
I like Margot Robbie. I like Ryan Gosling. I like fun movies. But idk, it just didn’t really appeal to me, and the plot felt predictable. I don’t regret watching it necessarily, but I also have no interest in watching it again.
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I was so confused about the message… Ken went full patriarchy, but then demonstrated that it wasn’t really that bad (also, no horses). So compared to barbieland the real world is absolutely paradise. Then they flip the full-on matriarchal barbieland to complete patriarchy, find that the women don’t like that, do a bit of gender war and go mostly matriarchy because reasons. And than a bitter remark that women have it hard in the real world so men will have it hard in barbieland. It’s all over the place.
The weird pacing, jokes that fall flat and at one point goes all 3 stooges just left me feeling… Empty, afterwards. All that hype, all the people rooting for and against it, people complaining that it didn’t win all the awards… I thought it was a vapid, low quality summer movie.
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I like Margot Robbie.
:)
but I also have no interest in watching it again.
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You’re a great dude, Margot Robbie.
That’s esteemed Academy Award nominated great dude Margot Robbie to you!
(Dude is gender neutral now)
Watch me several times now and then I’ll watch you several times back
I thought it was fun and I get why it’s been so exceedingly popular but they tried a little too hard to make the concept of Barbie and the concept of womanhood out to be the same thing. For a lot of people that really worked and I think that’s made it harder to criticize.
There are some really top tier moments though which made it easier to forget and forgive all the boring bits.
I love the idea, to change the gender and show how it would look if women was the dominant sex
I don’t think what they made was plausible. I know, it’s barbie, but I don’t find this version of “woman power” plausible without it changing the gender expressions. Like, how masculinity and being formed by masculinity being an expression of dominans, and therefore changes how men dress, behave and express themselves would change a lot Also, this is not a matriarchy, it is a patriarchy but where the women have the power. I’ve read several books where they flip the sexes, and I’ve found the concept interesting because it points out how much of our society is formed by the patriarchy, for all genders, which makes a lot of fun and interesting situations
I love the idea, to change the gender and show how it would look if women was the dominant sex
Watch the movie “I Am Not an Easy Man.”
The constant attack towards men ruined that movie, it wasn’t even a clever attack just dumb feminism
The Barbie movie isn’t attacking men, it just lampoons society using the Barbies and Kens as silly caricatures.
Maybe it has a slight vapid girl power message but the real message is “hey remember this Barbie doll? Give us money”
While I do agree that it, at times, definitely stepped into ‘dumb femminism’ as you put it. I also acknowledge that it was a movie and to do a discussion on feminism justice it would require a lot more than 2 hours. So a lot got simplified, sometimes too much. I disagree with you that it was a constant attack towards men. The movie went wayyyyy out of its way to make it clear they were attacking patriarchal systems, not men in general. That’s Ken’s whole arc, he’s suffering under patriarchy too. He just also gets the benefits of the patruarchy while he’s suffering. If I had any criticism about the film it was how much it tried to avoid criticizing capitalism and corporate culture’s role.
Nah I’m sorry but it was an aimed attack. The speech about what society expects from a woman is such bullshit. As a man that is very old school I don’t need woman to look great for me but not enough for other men, or being delicate, or earning less and all that stupidity. The men were the villain in the movie and the butt of the joke…
And the Ken character was fine. Only at the very end was almost shoehorned the “oh actually the system is the problem” and wtf didn’t he got Barbie at the end, she even wanted him at first. Now that he was a better person or whatever why they went separate ways? There’s no satisfactory ending for neither of the characters.
Thank you for projecting your experience as an individual man, on the experience of all women re what society expects of them.
Fucking Bravo.
I’m using me as an example, especially since I’m not a gen Z, but do you really think the average dude feels much different about women? Cmon
Sorry to break it to you, but everyone projects their own experience. A man’s experience is just as valid, even if you disagree with it.
Wow fuckin’ wooosh with you and that one hey? Only a very weak beta would feel even remotely attacked by that movie. Good luck Chuck!
Barbie movie Predictable
Were you expecting a post-modern masterpiece?
No, but with all of the hype and excitement around it, I thought there was something extra-special about this movie. Like an interesting/unexpected story.
it was unexpected for a Barbie movie
I’m with halfeatenpotato here. I went into it expecting something that had spawned this whole Barbieheimer thing, and was a billion-Plus-dollar movie that excited the nation for a while.
That’s not what I saw. It was hot garbage. It wasn’t even fun.
You fell for the marketing
Yes I did.
Oppenheimer
I liked it, but it could have been a 90 minute film
One of the most common criticisms levied against Oppenheimer is its blistering pace that crams in as much detail as possible, so I find it hard to believe that it could’ve been condensed into 90 minutes.
Crash the 2004 hit movie not the 1996 Cronenberg Cult-classic.
to elaborate, IMO it was insincere corporate virtue signalling designed specifically to bait the academy awards by using a multi-character parallel storytelling style that is only ever celebrated amongst industry snobs.
a multi-character parallel storytelling style that is only ever celebrated amongst industry snobs
I’m going to agree with caveats here, because some directors who are actual artists do it for the sake of the film and the challenge of it, as opposed to what I’ll refer to as “industry types”, who do it for the prizes. And some crazy bastards manage to pull it off. Three names come to mind - Robert Altman, Paul Thomas Anderson and Steven Soderbergh.
I’ve never seen “Crash” and never wanted to, from what I’ve read, the bland yet heavy-handed results onscreen, plus the lazy reflexive accolades, made me view the whole thing with a cynical eye, like you.
In fact, Robert Altman had a thing or two to say about those “industry types”, in his triumphant early-90s comeback triumph “The Player”.
Also, do yourself a favor and watch Altman’s “Short Cuts”, to see parallel storytelling at its’ best.crash has like one good scene in the entire film. the rest is total garbage that me and a friend laughed at the entire time we watched it
Short Cuts is amazing. Altman changed the game in many ways. I believe he changed the entire way we record dialogue because the way we did it before just didn’t work for him.
Altman came in throwing punches with the noisy background and chaotic dialogue wafting every which way, right from the outset, on MASH and McCabe & Mrs Miller, which is why it’s a good idea to watch his films with English subtitles turned on.
I don’t remember the cacophony being as intense in some of his other early works, like Brewster McCloud, California Split and The Long Goodbye.
But in Nashville, it’s most certainly there, front and center and in your face.I’ve only ever seen Short Cuts (loved it), the Player (liked it a lot), and McCabe and Mrs Miller (ehh…). How do you think I’d feel about his other films?
My recommendations to you are as follows:
My favorite Altman film overall probably might have to be The Long Goodbye. Check out how the camera is always moving, if even slightly; there are no static shots. Midway through the movie, the great Sterling Hayden steals the show. And keep an eye out for a very, very young Ahnold Schwarzenegger in a bit role as literal and figurative muscle for the batshit insane bad guy.
Brewster McCloud is a bonkers twisted fantasy that caught me by surprise by how much I enjoyed it, it’s about a kid who:
- Lives in the Astrodome in secret, in a forgotten construction nook, a big one, between walls and floors.
- Wants to be able to fly.
- Is being encouraged by an older woman, who might actually already know how to fly.
Also, there are people being killed all over town, and it might have something to do with all this.
Thanks, I’ve saved your comment and I’ll add them to the list.
“In fact, Robert Altman had a thing or two to say about those “industry types”, in his triumphant early-90s comeback film “The Player”. Also, do yourself a favor and watch Altman’s “Short Cuts”, to see parallel storytelling at its’ best.”
Thanks, I’ll be sure to check those out. I was a little worried I came off too hot with my take. I won’t say it can’t be done well, it’s just that I’ve never seen it done well since I first learned about the storytelling style in my intro to film studies course in college.
