Eating out is already so expensive, every menu item is like at least $17 dollars nowadays (live in the city).
I’d rather give money to a homeless guy. The psychological warfare and the bullshit socioeconomic arguments for tipping are unconvincing for me. Leave me alone. Thank you.
It used to be simple. You set the price, we pay it for services and food. Now there’s a social expectation to give more? Fuck off. Fuck right off, don’t give me bullshit like “oh they don’t make a profit” well that’s their fucking problem. I paid, I paid no less than what was necessary, I shouldn’t feel bad about myself.
Sorry about the rant. I love eating out. But I hate feeling like a tightwad asshole for not tipping. Don’t get me wrong, I mostly tip like 99% of the time. I just didn’t tip today. The food took a long time to come out, they didn’t give us hot sauce, I had to go to the front to pay instead of the server handing me the bill.
I hate this, I hate what the tipping economy has become. It should’ve been simple.
Oh so now i’m depriving my server, a waiter who agreed to be paid hourly, above the legal minimum wage because we’re in California and tips aren’t deducted from his wage, his fair wage by not tipping? Me, a consumer in the restaurant, needs to directly subsidize his wage?
Why?
I’m actually fucking losing it
No what you are doing is being a poor comrade to your fellow worker, you’re out here posting in explicitly anarchist and socialist communities and you are getting pissy about other people being exploited? Tipping culture is absolutely shitty but if you go out to eat and don’t tip you’re just enabling the exploitation of restaurant staff. If you don’t want to tip at a restaurant don’t eat out, it’s that simple.
I can agree with you in retail or fast food establishments, because that was newly introduced and not how those workers have historically earned their pay, but if you go to a table service restaurant then not tipping is directly hurting other workers like yourself.
Oh so tipping was an anarchist and socialist thing? I didn’t get the memo, given countries that lean socialist don’t have the same intense societal pressure to tip
https://starboardboats.nl/do-you-tip-in-amsterdam/#:~:text=This one is pretty simple,appreciated but not automatically expected.
Also, i don’t get the “if you don’t want to tip don’t eat out argument” because you’re avoiding the problem that is toxic tipping culture. People should tip and give extra because they want to, not because society and their servers expects them to. And also, I don’t eat out alone precisely because I don’t want to endure the societal expectations and pressure to tip, but that’s not a healthy thing is it? I should be able to just eat out alone, tip when I want to or not.
I’m thinking of tipping more as a psychological and societal phenomenon rather than an economic thing. I actually tip the majority of the time (when i’m in a group, with my friends, with my weed cashier). Let’s leave out the economics and think about this from a social and psychological level, which capitalists use to leverage and justify not paying their servers well.
In California, you shouldn’t feel obligated to tip (or at least not nearly as much as elsewhere) because they aren’t paying an artificial deflated wage. In other states though where they’re making a fraction of the hourly minimum wage, I would argue that you should feel obligated to tip. More states should do what California is doing though.