Mine is fresh highschool graduates getting 2 weeks of training to go work acute, all-male forensic psychiatry. We’re taking criminally insane men who are unsafe to put on a unit with criminally insane women.

…and they would send fresh high school graduates (often girls because hospitals in general tend to be female-dominated) in the yoga pants and club makeup they think are proffessional because they literally have 0 previous work experience to sit suicide watch for criminally insane rapists who said they were suicidal because they knew they would send some 18y/o who doesn’t know any better to sit with them. It went about how you would expect the hundreds of times I watched it happen.

My favorite float technician was the 60 year old guy who was super gassy and looked like an off-season Santa. Everybody hated that guy because they said he was super lazy but he would sit suicide watch all fucking shift without complaining and he almost never failed to dissapoint a sex pest who thought they were gonna get some eye candy (or worse).

What’s your example?

  • ssm@lemmy.sdf.org
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    24 days ago

    Police, Judges, Presidents, Therapists, Executives, the whole US scammer industry of Noctors (“Functional” Neurologists and other chiropractors)

    • WordBox@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      Therapists? Where can one become one without a masters? Or it like a pseudo therapist… homeopathy esque?

      • seth@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        Licensed Clinical Social Workers are a dime a dozen, and while there are some excellent ones, they’re diamonds in a very abrasive rough. I have had mixed luck with PhD psychologists as well. Engineers and psychologists with PhDs were the first people I met who made me realize a PhD indicates someone is persistent, but not necessarily smart.

        • PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee
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          23 days ago

          LCSW requires a minimum 4 years college education, and an LCSW is not the equivalent of a therapist.

        • Catsrules@lemmy.ml
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          23 days ago

          But getting the PhD was the training. So it isn’t that they never received training it is that the training they received sucked and didn’t actually help them in the real world.

    • I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.world
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      23 days ago

      I’m almost certain that every state not only requires at least an accredited master’s degree, but also a state board license that involves at least 2 years of clinical supervision. However, the supervision is based on the honor system of other licensed therapists, so there isn’t much oversight of the quality. Clinical supervisors usually charge for supervision, so there is a conflict of interest.

    • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      22 days ago

      They dont like this one but its real. Democracy doesn’t work if people vote according to falsehoods they believe. Or rather Democracy doesn’t care if they vote like that. Vote stupid, get stupid.

      • sunbeam60@lemmy.one
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        22 days ago

        100% agreed. For me it’s pretty simple; issue the same test you issue immigrants for citizenship. If people can’t pass that, why the hell are they getting involved in the governing of our country?

        And I speak as someone who has passed the U.K. citizenship test to acquire U.K. citizenship. It takes 2 weeks of studying one hour/week AND some general understanding of what’s going on in the country. It’s not hard, it just requires a little effort and involvement. Seems a minimum you can expect before people make decisions that affect us all.

  • Crashumbc@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    23 days ago

    Sheriff is an elected position in the US no experience required.

    Bonus answer, president of the United States, we’ve elected two mentally deficient celebrities so far…

    • Apytele@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      23 days ago

      I often wish more of my adult psych patients’ parents had done some reading about psychosocial development and how to support the child at each stage but more importantly I pretty much always wish they’d cared half as much as you did to even ask that question.

  • FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works
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    23 days ago

    Project manager in the creative industries. One place I worked had this policy of moving receptionists into project management. Zero experience and zero training prior to starting.

  • Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    The county coroner is an ELECTED position.

    I’m a mortician who’s worked substantially with autopsies. To be the county coroner, you do not need a degree, you do not need experience in mortuary science, postmortem science, forensics, pathology, NOTHING. All you need to be the county coroner, is to be popular.

    Meanwhile, funeral directors in the USA need to go through years of college and continuing education, because we’re literally the last line of defense when coroners/doctors screw up. I’ve caught dozens of mistakes the coroner has made and I’m sick of it. The most recently was a shaken and bruised baby having cause of death listed as SIDS.

    I no longer blindly trust autopsies for accurate cause of death. If the mortician needs 4 years of medical school, the freaking county coroner would should be required for at LEAST that to be elected.

    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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      23 days ago

      I have to admit I often think about sliding into one of these “prestigious but just need to be likeable with no experience” loophole-esque positions…

      But instead of acting like I’m “the boss” and pretending to know what I’m talking about while ruining everything, I’d find the best people in the field and make sure I’m listening to them and supporting them in doing their jobs instead.

      Just there to keep idiot managers off peoples’ backs and listen to people who actually know what they’re doing.

      I imagine that’s “not how it works”…but still.

      • Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        Lawmakers rarely update laws. Disability(SSI) hasn’t changed since 1974. The medicaid asset limit is $2,000. If you EVER have more than $2k in your bank, you lose your medical insurance and food. You can’t even pay rent/bills for that small amount. If adjusted for inflation, that $2k would be $13k. That’s enough to pay bills, that’s enough to put a deposit down on a home, that’s enough to do some of the things you could do in 1974 with $2k.

        I contacted a Michigan representative about this, and was told they keep the asset limits so low so that only the severely destitute get it… but even the severely destitute can’t afford their bills. SSI pays a whopping $11k a YEAR if you’re permanently disabled, even though they can’t work and paid taxes to protect themselves.

        I’m a disability advocate, so very passionate about this.

    • medgremlin@midwest.social
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      23 days ago

      4 years of medical school and a few years of residency (and maybe fellowship) in pathology. So you’re talking 12 to 16 years of post-high school education because it’s becoming more and more common to have to have a post-bacc or a master’s to get into medical school in the first place.

      • Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world
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        23 days ago

        We have to take additional courses and pass every year, as well as take pandemic response training and mass death psychology/procedure. I even got trained for the ebola outbreak 10 years ago. 2 years of pre-med, 2 years of medical and postmortem science, and a residency which is a minimum of a year, but often longer as it’s based on tasks you have to do. A specified amount of autopsied cases, military cases, decomposition, etc. Then you have to pass your state and LARA exams.
        The curriculum included classes for psychology, reconstructive cosmetology, and business law too. I’m a Jill of all trades 😅

        • medgremlin@midwest.social
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          22 days ago

          See, I’m planning on trying to steal your business by going into emergency medicine to be a necromancer. (I have done CPR on people that have actually woken up to complain about it…you cannot convince me that CPR/resuscitation is not necromancy.)

    • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      23 days ago

      It must vary by location. I know I’ve never voted for county coroner. After a little digging, it sounds like my county did away with its elected position over a hundred years ago.

    • Bahalex@lemmy.world
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      23 days ago

      Hey, some places it’s the county Sheriff that’s the coroner… which is also bad.

      Sometimes people die in the county jail… and almost every time it’s not needed to perform an autopsy- it’s just natural causes…

      The coroner needs to be an impartial medical professional.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      23 days ago

      In my country:

      • federal cops are well-trained, low-paid, shit benefits, must like horses.
      • regional/muni cops are increasingly less trained, better paid, and for people who can’t be the fed cops (usually background check) they can sometimes be local cops. Think about that.
      • transit cops are like regionals but can go anywhere there’s transit. I don’t understand it either, nor do I know how much training they need.
    • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
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      23 days ago

      1 hour video? Ain’t nobody got time for that.

      Summarized by AI (ugh):

      The “Shipbreakers” YouTube video explores the issue of toxic ships being illegally exported to developing countries for breaking, with a focus on the notorious case of the Norwegian ship, the Tulip. Despite being on Greenpeace’s most toxic list, the ship flies a bogus flag and its first-world owners deny responsibility. Marietta, a character in the video, expresses concern over the double standard of Western countries exporting their toxic waste while refusing to accept it in their own. The video also features Mittu, a shipbreaker who expresses his longing to travel but finds contentment in the present as he watches ships come to be broken down for survival. The scene is accompanied by upbeat singing, highlighting the contrasting emotions of destruction and contentment. The video also shows the dangerous and labor-intensive process of dismantling old ships for scrap, with workers risking accidents and injury to extract valuable resources from the obsolete vessels.

  • Luke@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    23 days ago

    It was a revelation at some point in my young life when I realized that CEOs (and any other executive position) are not the highly trained and capable leaders with grand business acumen that I was led to believe they are. Literally anyone can be a CEO for a few dollars and their name on a business registration with the local government, no training or capability is required.

    Horrifying in retrospect to realize how many people lionize executives simply for adopting a title.

    • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.eeEnglish
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      23 days ago

      Every CEO I’ve worked for, I could do the technical part of their job. I couldn’t do the political part because I’m results and data driven. Their prideful fuckers who yell louder and demand satisfaction and wield their ability to fire you. Fuck CEO 's.

    • wolfpack86@lemmy.world
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      23 days ago

      I think it’s great when people create a small business and are successful. But I roll my eyes when they have a business with 20 employees and put their title as President & CEO on shit like linkedin. Just put owner. Or managing partner.

    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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      23 days ago

      I worked in a bunch of tech.

      Startup CEOs are often folks who rolled really high on Charisma and convinced a lot of people to give them money. Often they have a spark of genius, but if they were really smart, they’d hand over power to people smarter than them. That’s how major companies are founded. Then they settle back down.

      The dumb ones are egotistical and many end up failing upwards, as they continue being propped up by other until money disappears and they break enough friendships that they end up in jail.

    • mojo_raisin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      24 days ago

      I was shocked about this, I’d assumed it was well trained trauma doctors in the ambulance with you at your most critical moment.

      • Brutticus@lemm.ee
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        23 days ago

        I don’t know. I had to do a 3 month boot camp run through a local community college, and that included 36 hours of clinicals on an ambulance. There were daily tests, training on all the equipment, and batteries of tests finals that we had to pass. My favorite was we had to have a 80 in the course to qualify for the finals, but anything less than a 70 on any of the tests would disqualify you from taking registry, even if you had an 100 percent aside from that. That was for EMT Basic, the lowest levels of licensure. It’s a two year degree to become a paramedic (and I think thats like 200 hours of clincals, or something). And once I was in, there were 12 hours of CEs required for licensure (the company offered trainings), and I did have a written and practical test to take with the ambulance before they let me code, with a probationary period (mine was a few months, they really didn’t like me, looking back because I’m Jewish.)

        I won’t go to bat for the industry very often. I was making minimum wage, I was working 60 hour weeks. The culture has a problem with boot licking and racism, work life balance, and catty bullshit. I never left like management had my back, and people gossip. And that’s before you get to the insane nature of the work, and the constant death and crisis around you. I worked nights; nothing was open, and there was never any time to eat, so we opted for handheld, easily available garbage from convenience stores. And of course, I never saw my family.

        But even though registry can’t prepare you for the road, I would never have claimed I wasn’t properly trained.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      23 days ago

      That must be regional. My dad did EMS on the side - he once had no less than 5 jobs; no really - and it was easy for a fireman to get into but added to his retraining/recert load. And he was always recertifying.

      They’re not doctors: they want to keep your body alive (and ideally brain too) so you get to a doctor and a team. They’re really great and their bus is usually outfitted well enough, but their two main skills are CPR and a Siren, I think. Plus a desire to help people for a pittance and cope with the trauma of someone dying on-board, which is second only to arriving at a scene and finding your best friend was killed by a drunk who’s trying to start his car and drive home.

      … so my dad quit EMS the next day.

  • kbin_space_program@kbin.run
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    24 days ago

    MBAs who contract dev work out to India to make a quick buck without realizing how bad the code they’re going to get back usually is.

    Shoutout to Raj the QA lead I worked with in India though. That dude’s team was thorough.

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
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      23 days ago

      I’d go a step further than that - MBAs who not only contract dev out to India but go the cheapest route. I’ve worked with both fantastic teams over there and teams that do more harm than good: the difference is what that MBA was looking for. There’s a lot of great engineers and you can build a great team if that’s what you care about. However you won’t get it by looking for the cheapest contractor in the cheapest country

    • Punkie@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      MBAs who contract dev work out to India to make a quick buck without realizing how bad the code they’re going to get back usually is.

      Ah, but some of them DO know what they are doing! In the IT world, I have seen where people say a job is about 2-3 years, show no loyalty to the company, and so on. But they don’t understand managers are doing this, too. Many KNOW these outsourcers are shitty (or don’t care because that’s not a metric they care about beyond selling points), but in a 2-3 year turnaround time, by the time it’s apparent they don’t work, the people who made those decisions are already gone. They ALSO thought ahead to the 2-3 year plan. Here’s how that goes:

      Year 1: Make proposal based on costs. Find someone in Puna who will sell you some package with some bright, smiling, educated people who speak whatever language and accent that makes your pitch. Proposals are made, and attached to next year’s budget.

      Year 2: Start the crossover. Puna Corp has swapped out the “demo people” for their core chum bucket. Sometimes, they don’t even change the names. How is an American gonna know that the Vivek Patel they saw in the demo is not the same guy named Vivek Patel who is working with your bitter employees who see the writing on the wall? Sadly to many who don’t care, “they all look/sound alike.” Puna is a product, their employees are a static pattern of commodity. Your people say they are shit, but, “oh, those grumbling employees. Your job is safe! We can’t fire you, you are too valuable!”

      Year 3: The crossover has gone badly, but you are already looking for the next company to work for. The layoffs happen, and all the good folks are gone, and replaced by the Puna Corp folks. Things start to go badly, but you already got one foot out the door, charming your way into another company.

      Year 4: You’re gone. Your legacy is that you saved a butt-ton of money. You are a success! The product is shit, but that’s not your problem. By the time the company realizes the tragedy, it’s middle manager versus middle manager, all backstabbing and jumping ship. Customers don’t matter, marketing covers up the satisfaction. “Wow,” you say. “Things sure when to shit THE MOMENT I LEFT.” You look fantastic! When you were there, you saved money! When you left, it all went downhill! You are a goddamn rockstar. Then repeat.

      I have seen this happen since the 90s with a lot of tech folks. Everyone thinking short term for themselves. Only the customers get screwed via enshittification.

      • bizarroland@fedia.io
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        24 days ago

        Having been in this exact same cycle twice myself, all I can say is that IT jobs are boring.

        When you add on terrible software crossovers that amp up the stress without any extra income to justify it then that’s when everyone I know starts looking for their next gig.

      • mouserat@discuss.tchncs.de
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        24 days ago

        Now I feel stupid that I always assumed they just don’t know better, but this makes a ton of sense - and they can even expect a raise each time they change jobs. So their whole career is based on bullshitting and they for sure make more money than me… I don’t like this thought process