• misspacific@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    if you capitulate to the unreasonable demands of a violent minority, then you are encouraging more of that behavior. throwing a certain class of people under the bus in the name of money/fear is wrong on pretty much every level and i think your justification for it is cowardly.

    just to reiterate: you are a coward, and you should feel bad about it. i have no respect for people with so little principles. you disgust me on a level that is beyond words. i do not care to have any more of a conversation, i just want you to know that you’re a baby bitch.

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      6 months ago

      Put your loved ones in danger supporting a topic they care little about. Your mentality is the same used to support wars.

      “My morality dictates this is worth putting other people in the line of fire for my ideals!”

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        By allowing the terrorism to succeed they’re encouraging further harassment against a vulnerable minority.

        Many of my loved ones were already in danger from those hateful bigots, who are now emboldened and looking for new targets thanks to spineless corporate appeasement.

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          Many of my loved ones were already in danger from those hateful bigots, who are now emboldened and looking for new targets thanks to spineless corporate appeasement.

          So your solution is to put someone else’s loved ones in danger from those hateful bigots?

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            No, my solution is to protect the workers and continue to stand for queer acceptance. When people shoplift these corporations have no qualms with spending millions on security, but when it comes to standing up for the LGBTQ+ community they won’t put their money where their mouth is, they would rather shift the conflict onto people who don’t have ample resources to defend themselves.

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              they would rather shift the conflict onto people who don’t have ample resources to defend themselves.

              This is exactly what you’re advocating, though: Shifting the conflict onto a bunch of rank-and-file employees who (a) mostly have no skin in the game, (b) are typically teenagers making minimum wage, © likely have no interest in getting in the middle of a culture war, (d) can’t do anything to defend themselves without risking their job (or risking further violence from the bigot), and (e) are bound by company policy.

              If you think rank and file department store employees should be the ones to “protect the workers and continue to stand for queer acceptance”, feel free to fill out an application at your local Target.

              Your local Target cashier didn’t start this culture war against the LGBT community. And it’s unfair for people like you to demand that they stand in the front lines and fight a culture war that they didn’t start and want nothing to do with.

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                I’ve worked retail for stores like that. It doesn’t need to be the way you’re describing it. If they put a fraction of the effort they put towards loss prevention into protecting their workers everyone could be safe.

                Costco required masks for years during the pandemic, some people hated it and blamed the workers, but instead of giving up and backing down Costco invested in keeping their staff safe and de-escalating conflicts.

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      f you capitulate to the unreasonable demands of a violent minority, then you are encouraging more of that behavior. throwing a certain class of people under the bus in the name of money/fear is wrong on pretty much every level and i think your justification for it is cowardly.

      Any time you want, you can be a Target cashier. Fight the unreasonable demands of the violent minority over culture war issues that don’t even affect you, all for minimum wage! The list of benefits includes:

      • Having absolutely no say in what your company sells or displays.
      • Having absolutely no say in company policy
      • Having to answer for the above to every MAGA redneck who shows up, because you’re the first guy in a red shirt that the asshole happened to spot.
      • In rare cases, being threatened or physically assaulted by said MAGA redneck when your answers aren’t to their liking
      • Having to clean up the messes they create when they “take matters into their own hands” and start destroying displays.
      • And as an extra added bonus, you too can be fired for standing up to the customer, defending yourself, or just in case the company needs a low-end fall guy to take the blame if things go south!

      Sign up today! I’m sure there are plenty of culture war issues that you can defend while making about as much money as a Walmart greeter!

      just to reiterate: you are a coward, and you should feel bad about it. i have no respect for people with so little principles. you disgust me on a level that is beyond words. i do not care to have any more of a conversation, i just want you to know that you’re a baby bitch.

      Easy to say when you’re not the one who has to actually deal with the consequences of someone else’s decisions.

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      The ironic thing here is that you’re getting just as worked up as the other side is. Maybe if both extreme fringes calm down, the rest of us in the middle can just have a beer while wearing a North Face jacket.

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      i do not care to have any more of a conversation, i just want you to know that you’re a baby bitch.

      That’s the most baby bitch thing I’ve ever heard, LOL.