• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Ts, ts, didn’t they all scream that politicians influencing the juridical process is a bad thing just seconds ago?

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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    Because that’s how democracy works right my friends?

    The politicians are supposed to pay for prostitution and stop judges from jailing other politicians.

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
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    Do it. Give him jail time. Because when it comes to politicians we need to hammer in a lesson: not only could it happen to anyone, but it it should happen to almost everyone. They’ll need to be held universally accountable for crimes (for a change), regardless of political party.

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      I worry about Republicans taking power and using the trump trials as an excuse to put together kangaroo courts in places like Texas and Florida to actually do the sorts of politically based prosecutions that they’re whining about now. That should never be a reason to not uphold the law though. We cannot let ourselves be held hostage by what bad actors might do in the future.

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        They already have said that’s the plan. They want to go after Biden and his family, Obama (they can’t fucking get over that guy…) and whoever else was a part of any investigation of Republicans.

        Turn on fox news and watch the fucking propagandists go from practically in tears talking about trump, to literally frothing rage ranting about how all Democrats need to be jailed…

  • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
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    Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said it would be a “further abuse of power” to incarcerate Trump or sentence him to home confinement.

    “I’m very troubled by what I see in the way the courts have been weaponized,” he said. “It used to be there were some institutions in America, namely the FBI, the Department of Justice and the courts, which were regarded as out of bounds for overt partisan politics, but unfortunately that’s changed, and not for the better.”

    I am at a loss for how true his words are, while his intent is SO SO wrong

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        They mean the two-tiered legal system, where the working class is subject to the expected uncaring legal system, and the monied-class can be protected from prosecution (much less incarceration) by the wink-and-a-nod privileged legal system.

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        They mean the tv shows, where the cops frequently ignore basic rights of innocent people to get the bad guys.

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    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said last month. “I think a lot of these cases [will] work up, and the Supreme Court finally says enough is enough, we’re not a banana republic.”

    I really hope they do Senator. In a Banana Republic, the Glorious Leader is usually not held to account for his crimes. In the US and in functional Republics, we actually hold people to account for the crimes they commit, regardless of their current or former positions. Trump committed a crime, being a former President doesn’t mean he can’t be held to account.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    MAGA 2016: “Lock her up!”

    MAGA 2020: “Lock him up!”

    MAGA 2024: “The justice department is being politicized against Biden’s enemies!”

  • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.social
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    I wonder what the GOP take on Hunter’s trial is going to be? I’m going to go out on a limb and say, if convicted they will praise it, while at the same time saying Biden has the DOJ weaponized against Trump. If Trump’s DOJ hadn’t shut down all investigations into his crimes I’m sure his Federal ones would have started while he was still in office. He also wouldn’t have had to rush to announce his running to make his cases “political” even though nothing states he can’t be held accountable and campaign at the same time. Running alone shouldn’t be treated as some shield to prosecution as it is due to everyone afraid of looking “political” and feeding right into the crazy arguments from criminals.

    /rant

  • ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world
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    They feel he tilted the trial? He handled Trump with kid gloves the whole trial while he was throwing constant diaper filled tantrums. If anything he went way too easy on the orange baboon.

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      Fascists always say they were treated unfairly…

      The problem with that is, moderates then treat them with kids gloves, thinking that will stop them from saying it.

      It never does.

      To deal with fascists you throw the book at them, max legal punishment for every crime.

      Because even if you just give them a slap on the wrist, their ideology requires them to say they were treated unfairly and are being persecuted.

      It’s like how they’ll call the most conservative Dem in office a communist. So there’s no point in running a conservative Dem, they’ll fight them as hard as the most progressive.

      There’s no rational reason to compromise before the fight starts.

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        Many judges grant the defense way more leeway than the prosecution. One reason is actually pretty brutal- it keeps them from having something to appeal.

        Trump obviously wants to drag this out as long as possible, and keep re-rolling the dice until he wins. Preventing that is a worthy goal.

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          While there is some credence for that, it’s not like it only applies to fascists.

          Yet they always get preferential treatment at trial.

          Regardless of if that’s like Trump’s case where he appointed the judge, or this one where the other party appointed the judge.

          In both situations, the judges are more lenient with fascists than literally any other demographic.

          trump isnt the only example, look at all the 1/6 trials.

          Our justice system has a bias towards fascists, and regardless of the reasoning of the person showing the bias, they all believe it’s justified for one reason or another.

          And it’s always the wrong strategy when dealing with fascists.

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          This is particularly true for politicalized trials, because appeals courts are almost always more conservative than the lower courts. As you appeal higher, the courts tend to be more and more conservative, so a conservative’s chances of winning increase. So if you want to prevent a conservative from winning on appeal, the best way is to never give them anything to appeal in the first place.

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        Yeah, it’s the card says moops. They aren’t arguing what they think is true, they’re arguing what they think will get them what they want if they can convince people is true

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      If only someone could have seen it coming that no matter how soft the judges would be, half the country would allege wrongdoing. Judge may as well have just given him the letter of the law treatment. Would probably have been better for the country too to see Donny in contempt of court, that way the eager ones burn themselves out soon instead of letting every racist in the country simmer in a pressure cooker awaiting a verdict.

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      He’s not going to give Trump a prison term. He said as much during Trump’s tenth contempt citation. This is Senators grandstanding so that they can go home and tell their constituents “I fought for your President and I won!” when the outcome was a foregone conclusion. Its all kabuki.

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    He better at least get house arrest. I can see the logistics issue of the SS trying to keep him safe in prison even though he deserves to get the maximum time IMO.