What if I’m naan binary (preferably garlic)?
when peshwari exists?
No…Keema is the right choice
I’m peshwari-curious.
It’s always hilarious and frustrating when people who don’t understand a topic try to disprove it. This is the same energy as flat earthers pointing to the horizon and going “See!?!” or anti-vaxxers pointing out people who still get sick.
Anyone who thinks this logic is compelling should actually crack a book. I’d recommend Judith butlers gender trouble, but this sort of meme is peak dunning kruger. Literally too ignorant of a topic to actually argue against it.
Wow you are stupid, aren’t you? It’s called a joke and not a debate.
Sir, this is a shitpost.
It’s always hilarious when people take jokes as if they’re literal
I think it reads like a joke made by a nonbinary person
“If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice”
There are also only two different animals: elephants and non-elephants.
Anything unrelated to elephants is irrelephant.
This comment needs way more approval
I think you are mistaken actually the different types of animal are frogs and not frogs
Your both wrong there are crabs and then there are crabs 🦀🦀🦀🦀
Crabs and will eventually evolve into crab.
we are crab 🦀
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Crabbbbb people craaaabbb peopleeee
I am frog-fluid. Some days I am a frog and others I am not frog.
Doesn’t that happen just once, when tadpolemaxxing has been achieved ?
There are bullfrogs and elephant bulls, so we can conclude that {🐸}∩{🐘}⊂{🐂}
Frogness is a spectrum
That’s a very frogressive thing to say.
Hmm perhaps some kind of sliding scale is in order
I think you actually want {🐸}∪{🐘}⊂{🐂} because ∪ is union and ∩ is intersection. There are no frogs that are also elephants so the set would be empty and thus couldn’t contain any bulls. 😔
Aktshually, the empty set is a subset of any other set 🤓
But also, the fact that frogs and elephants are disjunct is conjecture at this point
Crabs and not yet crabs.
Are these elephants in the room right now?
As a non-elephant in the room I feel overlooked
The elephants exist in a state of being in the room and not being in the room
You gotta address the elephant in the room for it to exist
There are elephants, non-elephants, and undetermined elephants.
This comment was made by the intuitionistic and/or fuzzy logic gang.
You either are crabs or have crabs
Holy crab
Feel like there’s a Set Theory issue with this but I barely understand what little I can remember about it.
A bit can have two states:
trueorfalse. Additionally, the bit can be disabled altogether (null).Does the gender of all non-self-containing genders contain itself? This is the fundamental question of gender theory.
No, it’s only Russell’s question.
That’d effectively be a nested binary system
Whatever, just wash your hands.
And don’t talk to me. I’d rather be surrounded by twelve “women” (i.e. trans men) in the men’s room (or even just women) than one cis guy who insists on having a conversation with me.
I’m not there to make friends.
Never understood this. Standing at a urinal and someone walks up and starts talking to me, like no dude shut up
This has literally never happened to me, where do you guys live lol
I’ve had people doing it when I’m in the stall next to them. Leave me alone with my thoughts while I’m shitting, please.
But where else am I going to get the winning lotto numbers?
Have you considered your local tarot card reader?
How do you know they’re not in the toilet stall next to yours?
I always think there is a we vs them vibe in the non-binary thing which is kind of toxic
I’m going to use “you” a lot in this post but know I’m using the global definition, I’m not directly addressing you.
Right, but you must realize that is your perception and not reality.
If you’ll allow me to take some liberties and use you as an example :
They are asking you to change your perception of them.
You are asking them to change/disregard their reality to conform to your existing perception.One can be done, one cannot. They’ll still be what they are and now their way of defining themselves is forbidden, by who? Why? This path seems completely irrational.
And what value does your perception hold anyway? The meaning of every word, sound, and thought in your head is arbitrary, it’s all made up. So obviously language needs to be calibrated with reality from time to time.
Language has changed to such an extreme degree that you wouldn’t understand your own language 300, 1,000, 5,000 years ago. Why not be upset about that? Seems kinda silly to start a movement to rollback english to 1724, eh?
That is how I feel about those who oppose groups of people seeking to better define themselves. “I don’t feel what they describe, they’ve organized millions of people who claim to feel the same way to fuck with me, I’m mad!”
TLDR, it’s logical for language to change and people to carve out niches. Humans aren’t born male and female only, so it seems silly to puritanically declare that because of an ancient understanding of humans, we should ignore modern biology.
From a post I made earlier this month, the intersex population in the United States alone would comprise 10% of the population of Nebraska. These are people born, quite literally, between gender. Non-binary.
I’m not sure what you are trying to say
They are asking you… You are asking them…
Where did this come from? Why am I grouped into some kind of hater group suddenly?
Language has changed … silly to start a movement to rollback english to 1724
Ya and I was commenting on how I don’t like the choose of word in this specific change. Why not use better words when you start to describe something new?
In addition, many were mutilated as newborns
This sounds like a horror story. What?
You can argue that about any label of any kind but we have to live in reality, which means people are going to sort themselves and others. “We know who we are by who we are not.“ I just don’t see that stopping.
We also have to acknowledge inequality. It’s like “black owned businesses.” Yeah in an equal society we would all just say “businesses” but we don’t live in one so we need to highlight a group of business owners that are inherently at a disadvantage.
That’s so sad to me. From my POV being non-binary isn’t aggressive. It’s just that there are more important things to worry about than gender.
I think it’s just the term. “Binary” isn’t exactly neutral as it can imply narrow minded. Also labelling non-X imply that everyone else is X which often includes too many people that are kind of in the middle / doesn’t really care.
so what would you suggest people who do not want to be referred to as man or woman call themselves?
Blenders. Gender ephemeral. Intangibles. An even cooler fourth option, probably.
There are tons of cool names you could go with when your identity lies outside of preconceived boundaries (and pretty much transcends them). But, non-binary’s pretty clinical-sounding, so I guess it’s easier to work into a professional setting or something.
Enbies? Although the base of the term does come back around to the original phrase.
On the gender spectrum?
I don’t know, I think this debate is silly.
It’s easy to call a discussion silly if it doesn’t affect you personally.
I just mean this whole premise. The idea that being nonbinary is its own binary. It’s a categorically different comparison. The “binaries” OP sets up are a:b versus (a+b):c, when really it should be a+b+c+d etc.
The comment you were replying to wasn’t about the image in the op though. It was a discussion about someone not liking people who do not identify as man or woman referring to themselves as non-binary.
grogsnarl the fifth, conqueror of silesia
Also have you ever considered the fact that maybe you (or other people) don’t really care about gender labels because you were assigned as the gender you prefer? It seems a bit silly to criticise a group who currently faces a lot of discrimination based on their gender preference. Also are you aware that your argument is often used to discredit the experiences of and as a reason to discriminate against people who identify as non-binary?
It seems a bit silly to criticise a group … based on their gender preference
Like, didn’t I just say that it’s the vibe of the word that I don’t like? Therefore either
- I am not criticizing any specific people at all because I’m just talking about how we use words; OR
- I am criticizing some people for their taste of words
and not what you say at all IMO
I always think there is a we vs them vibe in the non-binary thing which is kind of toxic
I dunno if there is much “we” inside the non-binary community. Like Non-binary is an umbrella term that encapsulates everything from a both/neither/almost but not quite binary/gender fluid betwixt multiple states/people who identify as trans non-binary, people who identify as non-trans non-binary/ cultural third genders/ political gender activists /DID people with alters that swap… There’s a lot of different concepts and sometimes contradictory needs there.
Like people tend to just group non-binary people into a third category and don’t really ask questions of individuals what their actual deal is. I blew a friend’s mind recently when he introduced his enbyfriend to me and while we were out on a walk I asked “Apart from the umbrella non-binary term how do you conceptualize yourself?” because he had never thought to ask that question of either of us.
actually, technically it would be a trinary system, if we’re looking at it like a spectrum, and if we’re looking at it like a spectrum, i think it’s funnier to conceive of it like a circle. Or to get the point across, like those political alignment charts.
All they did was to add another bit. From 1 to 10
i think it’s funnier to conceive of it like a circle.
Unfortunately, conception is only possible when combining certain parts of that circle.
it can only make a full circle, when all parts are put together, therefore problem solved.
My pronouns are infinite/recursion
Technically the existance of non-binaries also makes the binaries no longer binaries (due to increased optionality), so it would be fair to say everyone is non-binary
Good point!
Was looking for this comment. Thank you.
And when everyone is non-binary, no one is 😔
That’s not how that works. If there isn’t a binary (because there isn’t just 2 options) then this would be a non-binary system and so everyone would be non-binary.
One day aliens are going to meet us and wonder what happened in our evolution that made us biased towards seeing every noun in groups of two, except for rules of nouns which are in groups of three.
I need examples or I don’t understand.
Male-female, darkness-light, plant-animal, ying-yang, mind-body, earth-heaven, spiritual-physical, prime-composite, even-odd
3 laws of motion, thermo, robotics, of dielect, and Trinity assignment.
Something strange about us that it is easier to think of opposites but following 3 rules.
Most of these groups are simply “A” and “Everything not A”. Either a number is odd or it is even. Either a place is lit up or it is dark.
That being said there are also some cases in there where there is more than just two categories (like male-female or plant-animal) but we, for the most part, only think about the most important / biggest ones.
All of this probably comes down to the fact that in order to make sense of the world or brain constantly tries to put things into categories to quickly assess what something is or isn’t. And it makes sense that the easiest way to categorize things is by just going “Is this A or B”?
That’s a fun thing to point out. The rules of 3 especially so, but it’s also using specific examples and lacking to see the complexity of of our ability to communicate and all the other words we have.
Androgynous, tomboy, femboy / twilight, murky, dim / fungus / Ying -Yang is cheating / spirit, form, will / limbo, underworld, cosmos, time / etc…
And even in rules, in Buddhism you have the 8 fold path, the 10 commandments, heck the 613 laws of God in Judaism.
Just don’t be going all “The Number 23” on us just cause it’s easy to find solution confirming biases in common numbers.
Sure there are counter examples. As for Buddhism he had the three great truths: no soul, no plan, everything dies.
plant-animal
I identify as a mushroom
Non-binary is an umbrella term for many identities so saying “binary and non-binary” is not the same kind of binary as the gender binary it’s attempting to upend.
“Troll logic” is one of my favorite memes.
Exactly like being hit by lightning at any instant has a 50% risk because either it happens or it doesn’t.
What if you half die
