Homer looks like that ape nft
I don’t get the hate for this. It’s just browser history but for your whole PC. The number of times this would have saved people from losing important documents or unfucking things they did wrong up to this point makes me wonder how they never thought of this before now.
The whole PC isn’t a browser, there are things that I don’t want saved every few seconds, with potentially sensitive details. Bank or medical info is a bit different than having a link to a webpage. And no, I don’t believe all this will stay local. Even if not straight away, it will eventually be sold to advertisers one way or another
Are you sure I shouldn’t just ask Microsoft to pretty please keylog everything I do on any computer ever? I mean that seems reasonable to me that seems like what a reasonable corporation would do. \s
I definitely don’t want Microsoft reading my Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy erotica fanfiction, that’s shit is between me, not God, and kinky Marvin.
Just remember, the fanfiction can always be worse.
“For as massive as it was, even Marvin with his planet sized mind couldn’t pinpoint the exact moment the pain in the diodes down his left side turned to pleasure. The safe word remained well behind his moist lips”…
Pure gold.
I’ve been seeing that comic for so long, and I’ve just realised I got the narrative backwards. I always thought the person handing the item over in the first panel was the plagiarist, and the person receiving it was saying “you made this?” in confusion, then waiting a moment and acknowledging that yes, they have just been given back the thing they made and told someone else made it.
Now I realise it’s probably meant to be read that the original maker is on the left, and the plagiarist on the right is just waiting till they’re gone to take credit for it.
I think that says a lot about your character though. You’d be sad someone took it from you, but you’d move on. Whereas someone else may see the world as a darker place where everyone is trying to steal what little they’ve created.
I think your interpretation tells me you’re an amazing person.
I’m torn between saying, “I think that’s a bit of a stretch,” and saying, “Why thank you, you’re absolutely right, and very insightful too.”
The subtle clue is the hat the first guy’s wearing, like he just made it in his workshop. At least, I think it’s a hat!
If files on your hard drive are sold to advertisers, they don’t need to bother with uploading screenshots.
I think this is key. There’s many ways Microsoft can provide your data without literally providing it. For example, they can build a profile about you and sell that instead.
Dingdingding! We have a winner
They have thought of it before. Autosaving, backup, restore functions that regularly took snapshots of your drive and saved it just in case some shit happened, etc. This is just another thing they can slap AI on and claim is innovating when it really isn’t.
So is this like that Time Capsule thing that apple used to do (maybe still does)? I think I’m OOTL.
Like that, but filtered through an AI.
Features: questions like “Hey, where’s that file I worked on last week”, “What was that recipe I found the other day” or “hey can you pull up a copy of this document from 3 days ago so I can compare them” all work. Its nice to be able to just do that, and you can apply all the normal AI editing things to them, too. They’re all available.
Downside: a black box AI system the user doesn’t have full control over has the right to record literally everything you do on your computer. They promise its local, for now, but not only is Microsoft not trustworthy in that regard, even if they’re honest we don’t know if or when they’ll change that policy. I would not be surprised if the next step was “A small amount of none identifiable information is transmitted to our servers” snuck in, and they used that permission to have Microsoft Recall answer queries for advertisers directly, technically without ever identifying you. Advertisers could directly ask your own computer for all the info they’ll ever need.
And, yes, Mac still has Time Machine. Linux has its own version, too. Both are very handy and I’ve used them each personally. In my personal opinion, a basic search with time machine does enough of Microsoft recall’s job that I’m not going near it, but honestly at least you’re getting functionality out of them selling your data, so it could be worse.
I see… I’m not sure that I like that. It sounds convenient though, so it’ll almost certainly stick.
It’ll stick anyway because Microsoft is not about to let all that data go. It’s great for training better AI and for advertising, and those seem to be the only businesses in big tech lately.
“it’s local, for now”
running locally is kinda the whole point of the thing
Time Machine (which is an excellent feature on macOS btw and isn’t advertised nearly enough by Apple), but Recall sounds more like an automatic clipboard history that saves more than just text and copied images, not something that lets you roll back to a previous state.
I came across rewind.ai for macos a year ago and have wanted something like this for windows/linux ever since. As long as this is all processed on-device as promised, I’m super excited and it might actually be enough to get me to upgrade from Windows 10 to 11. Except I think it requires an NPU which afaik my ~epic gamer pc~ doesn’t have, so maybe in the future.
OK but my whole browser history doesn’t get sent to Microsoft to be processed by an AI.
it’s on-device
^device may vary and is not necessarily the device owned and operated by the end user. Microsoft™️ and its subsidiaries and partners reserve the right to change and or modify your data at any point without prior notice and in providing this service may process relevant and non relavent user data at or nearby remote locations. Color may vary. Your statutory rights are unaffected.^
Assuming they don’t quietly change that, and assuming they can even be trusted in the first place.
running locally using dedicated hardware in snapdragon cpu is kinda the whole point of the thing though.
also it’s not really going to work otherwise, think about it for a second. How useful is a “recall” feature that only remembers moments where you were connected to the internet? also processing such a huge amount of data online is not a feasible task.
also the whole point of the locked down “ai” features (and windows 11 itself lol) is to boost hardware sales. they’re not going to make it work on other devices through the “cloud” at least for that reason alone.
They’ll have a smorgasbord of data and an AI to process it. If it’s not monetized from the start it will be, they’re just normalizing it, easing the tip in.
Lol, you should do stand-up.
I created an Excel spreadsheet 10 years ago on my laptop. I never agreed to upload it.
I can see it on my phone right now.because you saved it into onedrive?
which is the default save location in ms office unless you switch it to local (it’s not like it uploads stuff automatically tho, it’s just the default folder it shows you)
Oh man, someone just released a stand up bit about this - Government applications - Connor O’Malley https://youtu.be/796IdEW5yfI
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I don’t expect MS will give you the choice. Not as far as the whole spying on you part is concerned, at least.
Sorry to ask, but what is a “Microsoft Recall”?
From the MS website:
Recall utilizes Windows Copilot Runtime to help you find anything you’ve seen on your PC. Search using any clues you remember or use the timeline to scroll through your past activity, including apps, documents, and websites.
A “feature” coming to Windows 11. Essentially a keylogger on steroids… Powered by AI of course, because what isn’t these days.
Holy Shit. And here I am, hosting my own messaging, automation and syncronization services to be independend on providers, run AI locally, do not even leave emails on the server and they pull that stunt.
Yeah, kinda beating a dead horse here, but it’s giving “2024, Year of the Linux Desktop, inadvertently sponsored by Microsoft.”
I’ll use it at work because I don’t give a fuck about that machine but not for my personal machine.
So happy Windows is protecting us from spyware and malware.
Now, we have to protect ourselves from Microsoft.
Like the F in “Oh, what a bleak, horrible future we live in!”
I think it’s a cool idea in principle. I just don’t trust the company with my data even if they claim it is stored locally, but then again that’s why I don’t use their OS.
Yeah, I’d totally use whatever FOSS equivalent eventually makes it to the Linux desktop once it’s actually usable.
It might not be long if the idea works. We already have good local LLMs.
Gpt4all is avalible on linux, it is an open source software that can run LLMs locally.
That’s not an alternative to Microsoft Recall. It doesn’t take screenshots to record your activity.
I agree, but its better than nothing. I’m sorry I mislead you.
Now introducing Microsoft dildonics. We will tell you when to put it in your holes.
Say the L word instead
That’s ligma, perverts.
I predict GNUL desktop at 5%
For somebody who’s last windows experience was windows 7: what did they come up now again?
Even if this data wasn’t stolen by Microsoft (it will be) and sold to every advertiser everywhere (it WILL BE)
Having screenshots taken of your PC every few seconds and then stored on your hard drive is going to nuke your storage in a matter of days, maybe weeks at the most
According to available information that I’ve come across, everything is processed on-device and encrypted and 25gb can store months of rewind data depending on how much and how you use your device. At that rate, a terabyte should store about a decade of history (I can’t think of anything you would need to go that far back for though).
If security researchers don’t find sussy behavior where Recall sends back some sort of data beyond basic telemetry, there’s not really any higher of a privacy risk compared to using your computer as you currently do. Also you can disable it for certain applications and delete history when you want to (or disable the feature altogether). People are being really weird about this for reasons that have already been addressed.
Here’s the issue, though. It’s a corporation saying they pinky promise not to steal even more of your data, and I don’t trust them any more than I can purchase their company
That is to say, not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a thousandth of a percent
Just like Apple gives you the optiom to disallow tracking but their definition of tracking leaves a lot of room for data to be collected and shared with 3rd party
Well at least this surely will be easily disabled and then not keep re-enabling itself when Windows forgets its own settings every couple weeks(!)
It won’t on… wait for it… Linux!
Sure.
Then you get the occasional fun experience of a maintainer fucking up a package definition or two, and all of a sudden you can’t update your system or run a program because there’s a tangled mess of dependency conflicts and you get to spend the afternoon force reinstalling system libraries. Love ya’ Void :')
Been trying NixOS which is great for avoiding that kind of thing, but it comes with it’s own set of annoyances. I really ought to just settle on a more stable distro like Debian lol.
I use arch btw /s
