David Copperfield Is Accused Of Sexual Misconduct By 16 Women, Some Of Them Minors
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Magician David Copperfield is facing serious allegations of sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior from 16 women, as revealed in an investigation by the

Magician David Copperfield is facing serious allegations of sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior from 16 women, as revealed in an investigation by the

  • mister_monster@monero.townEnglish
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    6 months ago

    He has a track record of standing up for women’s rights

    Yeah, dead giveaway. I hate to say it, but I have never once met or even heard of a man that was staunchly and loudly feminist that wasn’t compensating for their abusive sexual proclivities or just trying to gaslight women into sex. To me its a giant red flag. Most good men believe in equal rights and treat people equally, but don’t really go out of their way to convince the people around them that they’re trustworthy, unless they want you to trust them so they can take advantage of you. Hardcore feminist men are nine times out of ten total fucking creeps, unfortunately.

    • iAmTheTot@kbin.social
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      6 months ago

      That’s an impressively cynical take, even for the internet. Think I’ve had enough for tonight, yeesh.

    • TrickDacy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      Hmm, the psychology behind this claim is… Interesting.

      Not surprised to see this coming from a conservative honestly

      • mister_monster@monero.townEnglish
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        6 months ago

        What makes you think I’m a conservative? I’m probably the farthest thing from a conservative you’ve ever spoken to on the internet. I must’ve hit a nerve here, seems like there are a lot of creeps masquerading as feminists hoping to get some puss out of it, can’t have people putting their strategy out there.

        • TrickDacy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 months ago

          I remember your previous comments but nice try

          FYI when you write out a thesis about how no one could be doing something for a genuine reason then that reinforces previous reasons to think you’re a conservative

          • mister_monster@monero.townEnglish
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            6 months ago

            I didn’t say no one, I said 90%, and that I personally have never met one of those 10%. Plenty of people are genuine, just not most people loudly championing holier than thou causes.

            • TrickDacy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              6 months ago

              So you’re claiming that you’ve known a significant number of sexual assaulters but no other type of male who calls themselves a feminist?

              Personally I could’ve seen your point if everything you wrote about it, along with past statements, hadn’t rubbed me the wrong way. It was like you were just waiting to find a way to bring down “feminists”.

              Edit: went back and reread and can find nothing about 90% anywhere. You making shit up to backpedal?

              • mister_monster@monero.townEnglish
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                6 months ago

                Most men I know are what you’d call feminists. They don’t beat their wives, don’t expect women to be virgins, like women to have careers, that kind of stuff, comfortable and happy with competent, confident independent women and want that for their daughters. But none of them go out of their way to let everyone know how important women’s rights are to them, and of the handful that I’ve met that did, I’d catch them salivating at 13 year olds, “false assault allegations” in their past, or just have an undeniable fucking creep vibe to them. This one high school teacher I met that got outraged at me over asking him if he’s ever been attracted to a student is on the registry now for fucking underage students. There’s one particularly prominent example that comes to mind (that I won’t go into details about) that was by far the most culture warrior man I’ve ever met that turned out was a complete predator and scumbag who should be dead. Needless to say I don’t hang around people once I get that kind of understanding of their character. These people have all been friend of a friend type acquaintances, and a few have been short term boyfriends of feministy female friends of mine who have agreed with my sentiment wholeheartedly since then.

                You look at all the me too people in the public eye, almost every single one of them was out front with the activism. It’s just my experience, people that go out of their way to let everyone know they’re a Good Person™ usually have all kinds of unsavory shit they want to keep from getting out. It’s like the preacher that’s molesting little boys while telling people they’ll burn for being gay, but the left leaning version.

                • TrickDacy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  6 months ago

                  Okay so you’re all about suspicion toward people who need you to know their morals. So then what does it say about your need to let everyone know you’re not like those “feminists”?

                  Also I don’t think your me too comment checks out at all. Harvey Weinstein was not an "activist " for women. Nor was Kevin Spacey, R Kelly, Bill Cosby, Garrison Keillor, etc. the only example I can think of where you could have a point would be Louis CK. So yeah, far from “almost every single one of them”.

                  And finally, you extrapolated all of this shit from that one sentence in the article… Not a good look

      • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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        6 months ago

        The first name.that came.to my mind for someone like that was Hugo Schwyzer (I’m probably spelling that wrong) - he was very much a very outspoken feminist who made a point of drawing attention to how feminist he was at every opportunity. He was also a women’s studies professor.

        Honestly, some of his writing gave me the vibe of what it would sound like if you were a recovering addict and chose feminism as the higher power in your 12 step program.

        Eventually it comes out that he nearly decided to murder-suicide an ex, and that he was a women’s studies professor because it gave him access to an ever rotating stable of young, impressionable women to hook up with.

        When he admitted to all that the wording again reminded me of 12 step program talk, like he was taking steps 5-7 publicly online because online feminism was the God he believed in for the program. It…didn’t get the response I think he hoped for. Less absolution and more ostracism and banishment.

        • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
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          6 months ago

          Hiding in plain sight is a saying for a reason. But sticking up for women’s rights is not a dead giveaway that you are a rapist.

    • 800XL@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      I’ll bite. Give me 9 “hardcore feminist men” then.

      don’t really go out of their way to convince the people around them that they’re trustworthy, unless they want you to trust them so they can take advantage of you.

      You just described Trump, every televangelist, and anyone in business.

    • frickineh@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      Standing up for women’s rights doesn’t necessarily equal creep - that’s what men should be doing. But you’re not wrong that men who are overly vocal about saying they’re a feminist are often creeps. It’s kind of like the Nice Guy thing in my experience - if you have to tell me (ad nauseum) how nice you are, I’m definitely suspicious. Men who are actually feminists don’t usually feel the need to say it 30 times in their dating profile, they’re just out there living it and it’ll be obvious to anyone paying attention.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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      6 months ago

      but don’t really go out of their way to convince the people around them that they’re trustworthy, unless they want you to trust them so they can take advantage of you.

      You just described the job of a stage magician.

  • Microw@lemm.eeEnglish
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    6 months ago

    Hm, his statement in response to the Guardian is very unusual for someone accused of sexual misconduct. Either he feels very safe that he can hide this, or he really didnt do it and somehow is the target of a campaign.

    Edit: The Guardian article literally has names and photos of the women who accuse him. That’s enough to convince me that they indeed were violated by him.

    • djnattyp@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      Just wait he could exonerate himself by exposing that the crimes were actually perpetrated by a secret identical twin brother or by opening up a warehouse full of dead clones and claiming that one of them did it.

    • drislands@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      I am curious – why does the article including the names and photos of his accusers make this more credible to you?

      • Microw@lemm.eeEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Because for one, it means the Guardian actually spoke to multiple people and didnt just hear something via three other people. And it means those people are actually willing to have their names and faces known publically. Making false allegations under your real name would be quite stupid.

    • ShepherdPie@midwest.socialEnglish
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      6 months ago

      It would be really odd for there to be some shadowy targeted campaign against him considering he’s mostly irrelevant as a celebrity these days. Why would anyone go through the trouble and what could possibly be gained? He’s probably got some money but he’s not Oprah rich.

      • YoorWeb@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 months ago

        “Got some money”? He owns a bunch of islands in the Bahamas, with prices for 1 week stay starting at over $1M (probably much more these days since I’ve red about it a decade ago). That’s where people who are recognised everywhere in the world are going for their holidays, weddings, whatever.

  • Snapz@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    When people of note, long since past their prime,

    Find out that the charges, are for serious crime,

    The gop wiggles and wriggles and screams,

    Because a new friend, has now joined their team!

  • YeetPics@mander.xyzEnglish
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    6 months ago

    Finally!

    My David cop-a-feel jokes will TAKE OFF

    Edit; I am not as creative as I thought

  • RGB3x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    I legitimately thought David Copperfield was dead. Didn’t he die during an escape stunt?

    Or was that someone else?