GASP!

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He epitomizes a lot of what I don’t like about comics. He was strong and fast compared to earth people… And that’s it. The thing about being able to leap tall buildings in a single bound? Yeah, he had to jump because he couldn’t actually fly. Then he gained flight, xray vision, laser eyer, frost breath, and a ton of other convenient bullshit.

And batman is just a rich guy that beats up mentally ill people for fun, with young boy sidekicks in tights. Captain sunshine from venture bros kind of nailed him.

Yeah, out of all of the superheroes that have the spotlight, Hulk’s is one I just don’t find as special as others. His stories are all bland and limited. His rogue gallery of opponents aren’t even challenging because he easily defeats all of them and there are so few that were memorable.

And the way his powers work is laughable, because the only way he ever gets strong is just by being angrier? It’s totally unimaginative and soundingly lazy. Like it sounds thought of by some angry internet user who dreams of getting angry and strong to “git back at them internet bullies!” kind of deal.

For this same reason, he’s one of my favorites.

Rich man who could do more good by not hoarding wealth plays dress up instead.

He spends a lot on “normal” help for the city, but people don’t know this because they don’t read the comics.

Do you have any idea how little that narrowed it down?

I don’t think it was supposed to be funny. I think that was their attempt at somehow mangling mental health into their stories because that’s what the kids are all about or something

I’m a big fan of Supes myself, but it depends on who’s writing him and what the goal is.

He is at his best when it’s a problem he can’t punch away, it’s about courage, and honor of defending others. Superman without powers is still the same stand up powerful character, that is crux of what makes him interesting.

First, the appeal of Superman is his heart more than his strength. There’s one comic where he fights a giant robot and stops a runaway train, but the scene everyone remembers is when he talked someone down from the edge of a building.

Second, Superman may be invincible, but Lois Lane isn’t. It’s easy to defeat a villain, but much harder to defeat them while also keeping Lois safe. And she actively invites danger, so it’s always tricky keeping her safe.

Third, not every problem can be punched. Luthor’s greatest weapon against Superman isn’t kryptonite; it’s Public Relations. You can punch a monster, but that won’t help you stop a smear campaign.

It’s stupid because you don’t understand it? Aeems like you are the dumb one then.

He’s OK if you stick to classic Superman. He wasn’t a god, back then. Couldn’t turn back time, out-speed The Flash, or fly into the sun and pupate for a hundred years into some ultimate being.

He became increasingly absurd over the years.

Yeah, I don’t think that it’s a fantastic recipe for a character. The powers restrict the plots.

I think that less-potent powers tend to make for better story.

A lot of fictional series in various formats – not just comic books – make things more-important or more-powerful over the course of the series, to top each previous thing, and I think that the plots tend to become increasingly constrained late in a lot of series.

it’s his ideals make him interesting, his nemesis litterally is an evil billonaire

I love the version of Superman where he growing up and is friends with Luthor and he’s like ‘I cannot tell him my secret because my dad would disapprove’ and it’s got accidental closeted queer vibes.
And there’s this comic book (not in the same continuity) where Luthor is this mad genius who escapes from prison easily and Clark interviews him and he’s like “I like you Clark, you’re so humble and down to Earth, but I hate Superman who is the opposite of that.”
and then Lois likes Superman more than Clark, at least to start with, in some versions I think.
And then with Brainiac there’s the possible storyline of ‘this computer has a lot of information stored on my lost culture but he is also an existential risk to all sapients everywhere in the galaxy ahhhhggg’.
And how will Clark deal with an environment where everyone is hostile to immigrants when he is one himself and also dedicated to upholding the law?
And the first comic where he interacts with Batman is actually fairly good: Batman threatens to bomb people if Superman unmasks him and Superman is like ‘oh shit, he is not lying, I can hear his heartbeat’, but Batman was actually threatening to explode himself. And the cartoon where Batman is fighting Brainiac and his costume gets ripped to reveal he was Superman all along was hilarious: “I did not predict this possibility.” The Justice League series in general (part of the same continuity) was pretty good actually.

I like the potential stories there. There’s so many emotional possibilities. Stories where he just punches stuff are indeed boring. He is, frankly, under-utilized as a character imo because many writers don’t understand that, or think the solution is to make a version of him that is evil which still involves him punching stuff, or because they’re scared to actually touch on political issues like immigration or queerness. (can you imagine how many people would explode if Luthor was an ex-boyfriend for both him and Lois and they bonded over how shitty Luthor was as a date lol.)

So she’s a lawyer, so is Daredevil, it’s a job that doesn’t lend itself well to perilous adventures.

Perry Mason’s kind of a Sherlock Holmes-type character. Not a superhero, but a lawyer character who does get into dangerous situations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Mason

Perry Mason is a fictional character, an American criminal defense lawyer who is the main character in works of detective fiction written by Erle Stanley Gardner. Perry Mason features in 82 novels and 4 short stories, all of which involve a client being charged with murder, usually involving a preliminary hearing or jury trial. Typically, Mason establishes his client’s innocence by finding the real murderer. The character was inspired by famed Los Angeles criminal defense attorney Earl Rogers.

I kinda hate all spin-off superheroes. Supergirl, Superdog, Batgirl; although it’s mostly _Girl versions of _Man. You never see WonderMan. WhitePanther wouldn’t get much love. It just feels like wringing the ol’ franchise of every last drop of blood.

Sometimes it bites me. SpiderVerse is supposed to be good, but it breaks my spin-off Rule.

Fuuuuuuck…

I hated how he became the symbol now of people who’re desperately quirky. You couldn’t throw a damn rock without it hitting some average person who closely associates with Deadpool because “he’s like me! I say and do random shit for the lulz and so does he and that’s all foonay!”.

And yes he is fucking obnoxious to the nth degree, he isn’t creatively written or crafty with his wits. People just think “oh Deadpool is totally the guy who’d ride a unicorn into battle…BECAUSE IT’S DEADPOOL! HAW HAW HAW!!”. Like I don’t think I want Deadpool to be overly serious or edgy, I just want him to be written not in the way he is now. I just feel there could be more there because he’s not a character anymore - he’s noise. Loud and obnoxious noise.

That’s kind of the point of Deadpool, though.

He has really departed from the way he was written in the beginning. Becoming popular forced the character to be written shallow.

Not sure about iron man but I can’t stand Robert Downey Jr.