Rebecca Joynes allegedly became pregnant after having sex with one of her victims, known as boy B, Manchester Crown Court heard - she denies the allegations against her.

Rebecca Joynes denies having sex with the two boys but admitted, in Manchester Crown Court, to having broken safeguarding rules by being in contact with them on Snapchat and having them back to her apartment in Salford Quays.

The 30-year-old was already suspended from her job and on bail for alleged sexual activity with boy A, 15, when she allegedly took the virginity of a second boy, known as boy B, 16, who she later became pregnant by.

Joynes denies that any sexual activity took place with boy A - whose semen was recovered from her bedsheets.

    • SmoothOperator@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      The point of having an age of consent (in this case 17 in the UK) is not popularity, and not just parental awareness or protection from people in positions of power.

      It’s a decision by society that kids below this age are incapable of grasping the full consequences of their consent.

      Of course the limit is going to be somewhat arbitrary, and you can definitely argue that age of consent laws are bad without being a creep, but you’d have to argue that a 15 year old understands the ramifications of consent.

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        6 months ago

        It’s unfair to have a discussion calling names by default. For me, even 18 is not enough to understand the ramifications of consent, but it’s too hard to keep 18 year-olds from having as much sex as they desire (sons of them do desire a lot). If you start calling me a prude for this, what should I call you from my POV?

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          6 months ago

          Not sure I understand, who is being called names?

          And sure, laws like these are always a compromise, with no objectively true answer.

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            6 months ago

            This is why there’s so much controversy when these cases happen, it’s all down to situation and the persons involved.

            15 years old is a freshman in high school. My friends and I had discussed numerous times what hot teachers you’d nail if you had the chance. Sure most of us hadn’t gotten further than 2nd base with a girl, but we were absolutely aware of the ramifications of consent and would absolutely take the opportunity if it ever presented itself.

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      6 months ago

      Sexual assault can happen to men and boys. Sure, some of them may be “fine” with what happened, but this mentality makes it incredibly difficult for male victims of sexual assault to come forward and get help when they need it. The damage isn’t always apparent right away, either.