Removed, clearly a mistaken statistic at best, propaganda at worst.
Worth checking the bias on the reporting here. Very right leaning for the majority of the outlets making these claims.
Of course, anyone who has been watching Hamas for the last decade knows that they routinely lie about civilian casualties while simultaneously using them as meat shields.
This is the UN, not Hamas.
The article suggests that the change is due to using figures from the Gaza Health Ministry - which is still part of the Hamas-run government - rather than Hamas’ Media Office, which is also Hamas.
It’s a bit rich to suggest that the IDF killing 5000 women and 8000 children is the result of Hamas, rather than the IDF.
Thank goodness Israel is indiscriminately bombing Gaza to root out these evil terrorists! I sure hope they get the terrorist’s location out of those civilians they are torturing!
Lying about casualties is standard propaganda in every conflict. Everybody does it (for another comparison, look at the discrepancy between Ukraine and Russia’s published numbers). That’s why third party assessments are important.
It’s been hard to get people into Gaza safely to do accurate analysis however.
God this reads extremely pro-Israel.
“Hey everyone, Hamas lied about 70% of casualties being women and children. The actual number is 50%, so that makes Israel the good guys!”
Fuck no, it doesn’t matter what the ratio is, the fact is that noncombatants are being slaughtered by the thousands.
I am happy that the casualties are less than reported. Why does that make you upset?
Why do you ask bad-faith, loaded questions?
because I’m getting attacked for posting relevant news…
You mean people are discussing a contentious news item that you posted?
Because it’s being used as a weapon to justify Israel’s actions.
if you say so…always forgetting that lemmy is the other way around.
13,000 dead women and children.
That makes me upset.
Because it’s just them finally being able to identify people not a big change in figures, so minimizing how many Isreal is killing
It’s not just pro-israel it’s fake
Misleading title more than simply fake, but arguably there’s no difference in the propaganda wars.
No it’s fake. The title claims less people were killed. In reality 10.000 confirmed killed Palestinian bodies have not been identified yet.
Literally just them updating the numbers of those they identified not lowering the deaths.
Did the UN go into the Gaza strip to count the victims while israel invaded Rafah? Why did the number magically change? Where does the new number come from, the IDF themselves?
The timing of this makes no sense whatsoever.
Reuters just confirmed that this is fake
UN says Gaza death toll still over 35,000 but not all bodies identified
This is fake news from israeli site JPpost. Shoutout to the squirrel
Wait so their original argument argument is “you lied! we only killed 7,797 children so far”, as if that is an acceptable number?
“The UN’s method of reporting deaths in Gaza is the complete opposite of what they do in other conflict situations,” Neuer said, pointing to the UN’s recent efforts in Ukraine where it has established “a defined methodology using individual records of civilian harm, where a standard of proof was met, namely, reasonable grounds to believe that the harm took place.”
Ok, you may let UN workers go to Gaza and look for the corpses from among the rubble. Can you guarantee that Israel won’t murder them, the same way they’ve murdered humanitarian help workers?
While more than 9,500 women and 14,500 children were reported among the fatalities by the UN’s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) on May 6, two days later that number was revised significantly downward. Today, under 5,000 women and 8,000 children are now officially listed by the UN as casualties.
…So it’s the same order of magnitude. Is this supposed to change the moral of the story?
Dead men don’t even get counted lol, glad we have gotten rid of sex discrimination
U.N. spokesperson Farhan Haq said the ministry’s figures - cited regularly by the U.N. its reporting on the seven-month-long conflict - now reflected a breakdown of the 24,686 deaths of “people who have been fully identified.” “There’s about another 10,000 plus bodies who still have to be fully identified, and so then the details of those - which of those are children, which of those are women - that will be re-established once the full identification process is complete,” Haq told reporters in New York./
Hey we’re updating the numbers with what we’ve found and still have more to do
So 10.000 Palestinians got completely bombed into unrecognizable bodies
Zionist propaganda spins this into “they didn’t die”.
Epic.
Today, under 5,000 women and 8,000 children are now officially listed by the UN as casualties.
Is that supposed to be the good news?
I forgot that I’m on lemmy…
I am happy that the casualties are less than reported. Why does that make you upset?
You are “happy” about 8,000 dead children?
did i say that? fuck off.
You seemed really confused why somebody would be upset about 8,000 dead children and also stated that you were “happy” about the updated numbers.
yeah i’m going to report and ignore you
Odd response. I am curious to know what reportable offense OP thinks I committed.
you ask a comedically loaded question, receive one in response, then get mad?
what?
7x more dead children than the oct 7 total. Proceeds to ask why we’re sad…
Yep. Even one civilian death is too fucking many. Op needs to give their head a wobble.
These are the identified casualties, not the total casualties. We’re not going to know the full extent of how much people has died until anyone tries to make a census of all remaining Gazans.
Yep, note that the number of deaths officially has been stuck at 32000 for months now. It’s not that Israel stopped bombing, it’s because they destroyed all the hospitals where the counting for official numbers is done. The actual death toll is probably already way past 100000.
It makes them upset that there are any caualties
i hope you are also including the 7th of october casualties.
Yes, also upsetting.
hope so
They don’t like to admit the side they are championing is a bunch of beheading rapists that also lie from time-to-time.
You can condemn both Hamas and Israel for killing civilians. It’s not either or.
apparently not here. If you post or say the slightest pro israel thing you are getting downvoted and commented into oblivion…
