hot take?
Edit: got nothing against Ubuntu, it’s Linux after all and that’s what matters 🌻 Edit2: people took this very seriously for being a shower thought…
Correct me if I’m wrong,
but I have been disliking Ubuntu because they use:- Proprietary pieces in their code
- Telemetry (spyware)
- Snap packages by default
And thats fine. You are entitled to your opinion, and your opinion is based on actual things.
As long as you don’t denigrate and insult others for using it, or try to pretend you’re the superior linux hackerman for not using it, You’re all good.
Show Ubuntu some love. Ubuntu is the entry distro of many us. But you move on once you grow up a little.
I remember back in the day when Slackware was both the elitist and the loser’s Linux distro at the same time.
Back in my day we used to fax pictures of floppies.
The neck beards that judge someone’s distro choice without knowing their use cases don’t represent the Linux community. Just use the best tool for the job
I’m not convinced Ubuntu is a good tool for many jobs.
To be fair, most tools are pretty bad at all other jobs besides the one it was made for. Same goes for an OS. If Ubuntu is made to off ramp people more comfortable with Windows, then that’s just a fine purpose for aln OS.
It certainly doesn’t help new users. At least not compared to Linux Mint and others.
At this point it’s the third best server OS in the Linux space and a below average desktop experience.
the problem with ubuntu is canonical, it’s a shame it’s got the reputation as “the third OS” when it’s basically the only distro that’s trying to replicate the walled gardens of microsoft and apple.
It’s one rich dudes toy is how I see it. It’s a good distro but once I tried to uninstall some things and it wouldn’t let me and so that was the end of it for me at home. I use the server version at work for one machine.
I wouldn’t describe Microsoft as a walled garden (and Canonical even less). But maybe that term comes with degrees, and different perspectives of what’s tolerable.
Windows is less of a “walled garden”, and more like a shared garden where the other gardener is really inconsiderate and will mess up your part of the garden whenever it doesn’t align with their vision.
Yeah, well said.
Ubuntu is great, until you find a better distribution
Once I learned about Linux Mint, I saw no reason to ever use Ubuntu. It has pretty much all the Ubuntu benefits, without canonical controversy, in an even more “just give me a fully featured desktop OS” package.
And like others have posted, I’m not shitting on Ubuntu or its use. If you like it, no need to mess with what works. It’s still Linux. It’s all good. I just never was a user of it, so I jumped straight to Mint for my last install.
Absolutely loving the replies to this.
This is how the extended Linux community wins for me.
Sure we talk shit for fun. The Arch BTW stuff, the Gentoo shade and Slackware side-eye. But its all in jest, ultimately.
Well done.
Thanks, have a nice day 🌻
it’s Linux after all and that’s what matters
I agree it’s a good OS to use, and it is Linux, but there are layers and layers of what’s good for the user and the community.
I think there will always be layers of “this could be done better,” and "that’s in someone’s selfish interest rather than for the best of the users and community. Or at least layers of being better for some people and worse for others. Ubuntu has some of those layers - though I’m always grateful for the good they’ve done the community - and other distros surely have some too.
all the cool kids use debian on a thinkpad
F*ck, I’m not a cool kid 😔
Please clarify if you would. What is a “hipster vibe”?
Generally today a hipster is someone who jumps onto social trends they don’t know anything about because they are different from the norm. Often the idea is that they don’t care about the thing itself, but rather just being perceived as different. But I’m a long time linux user, and in my head if a hipster is going to try linux it’s way more nuanced, like real hipsters (and real linux users). You’ll have the dude who tries ubuntu just so he can say “i use linux” to his friends with Macs. You’ll have the dude who asks his bandmate who’s been using linux for a long time, so he tries Debian, but then gets frustrated and stops, because the “cool factor” isn’t enough. And then you’ll have the hipster who goes like all in on NixOS or something and makes it their entire identity for awhile. I use arch btw
Is using Linux a trend? Microsoft must be pissing themselves in fear atop their giant pile of money. 😄
On the grand scheme of things? No. In terms of small gains? Yes
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/03/linux-continues-growing-market-share-reaches-4-of-desktops/
I hadn’t thought about hipsters in like, 15 years or something. But I like the idea of thinking of Ubuntu users as Jazz connoisseurs.
This isn’t “jAzZ”, it’s post punk new wave deep house acid fusion. You’ve probably never heard of it.
I too listen to the Linux after dark podcast
I was going to post this exact comment because I, too listen to the Linux After Dark podcast.
All people that I know that uses linux is using Ubuntu. I’m the wierdo using Debian
You’re also the weirdo using singular verbs with a plural noun. An unusual choice for sure.
You can do that in some languages, even in english, just replace “all people” with “everyone”. From the usage of “all people” I’m assuming @Siegfried@lemmy.world is a native speaker of a romance/latin language.
So… you’re saying that if we change the word to one that works, then the sentence is okay.
Yes, and I always screw up with these kinds of sentences.
Linux is Linux which is good regardless, Ubuntu is just fine, and fair criticisms of it aside (like snaps or Ubuntu pro ads in my server terminal… or that time with the short-lived Amazon integration…), I’ll take Canonical over Microsoft any day.
Personally, I found my feels like home distro after hopping a few times and never left since. Btw no rewards for guessing which distro that is.
I used to use Ubuntu up to 12.04. By the time the support ended, the new versions had the Unity desktop, I didn’t like it, so for a while I switched to Crunchbang (may it rest in peace), and now I’m using Mint Cinnamon. Some of my developers are using Ubuntu with Unity. Everyone is free to pick what suits them; I’m not one to judge them.
Ubuntu is back to GNOME now.
What’s the opposite of a hipster?
Mainstream i guess
Shoulderster