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        • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 months ago

          This you?

          Oh the fucking centrists have shown up 🥱

          There’s nothing there to really agree or disagree with lemmygrad. It’s just juvenile name calling.

          • whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            6 months ago

            “Fucking centrists” isn’t name-calling, it’s an extremely appropriate labeling of the ideology, spoken with disdain.

            And you literally called me “grad”? Which like, is it so hard to believe that leftists just exist and aren’t in these random instances you’ve decided to hate? And even if I was, why would that matter? Like idk much about lemmygrad except apparently there are leftists there and people hate them. It’s not insulting just confusing for me and embarrassing for you.

            • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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              6 months ago

              The online left is all sockpuppets and indoctrinated children, the should be ignored. But they’re also the critical votes that cause Democrats to lose elections. But we should under no circumstances try to do anything to please them, that would be worse than losing.

              • Mastengwe@lemm.ee
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                6 months ago

                Most of them aren’t even of age to vote, so I say fuck ‘em. Call their asses out.

                • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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                  6 months ago

                  Is lemm.ee the edgy radical centrist instance now? I feel like I remember there being some sort of “free speech” movement toward it a while back and now half the time someone makes a comment about how the left is the real problem, send in the National Guard, it’s a lemm.ee user.

            • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              6 months ago

              “Fucking centrists” isn’t name-calling

              It’s literally the definition of name calling grad.

              And you literally called me “grad”?

              Glass houses grad. Glass houses. You come in throwing stones you don’t get to whine and pretend to be the victim when someone responds. This is literally what you did last time grad. And is the whole reason I call you grad, grad.

              Which like, is it so hard to believe that leftists just exist and aren’t in these random instances you’ve decided to hate?

              No not at all. But you only confirm it’s what you are by being so upset about it grad. And for the record I don’t hate them. I absolutely dislike them. They aren’t leftists in any meaningful sense. They are authoritarians. And would destroy the lives of or slaughter those that disagree with them as happily as any capitalist would.

              • whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                6 months ago

                Is “centrist” insulting to you? Why do you align yourself with politics whose very basic descriptor draws out this much vitriol?

                Again, I’m not insulted by you calling me grad because I don’t really know much about it and only hear about it from pissed off conservative Dems/centrists. Anything they hate is bound to be kinda good lol. What I feel is more like the bemusement/pain you feel watching Michael Scott.

                • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  6 months ago

                  No. “Centrist” is not insulting to me. Because even as a leftist I can and do regularly work with and discuss things with centrists all the time. They can be as rational and reasonable as anyone else when they’re being sincere.

                  But I think it’s very deceptive, insincere and telling how you edited your own statements. Because you didn’t just say centrists. What was the word you used before? It wasn’t and endearing word. Definitely the sort of word someone would use in a hateful venomous way, oh yeah fucking.

                  Getting upset being called out over it. And then pretending to be upset or not knowing what it even is doesn’t work kiddo. And now you can add the fact that you’ve been told about it by a social libertarian / Anarchist as well. By again grad.

                  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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                    6 months ago

                    Because even as a leftist I can and do regularly work with and discuss things with centrists all the time. They can be as rational and reasonable as anyone else when they’re being sincere.

                    Wut? Centrists define their politics around triangulating between the two parties, without regard to how one is diving headlong into fascism. I can believe a self-described leftist passionately defending moderate Democrats, but no, centrists are scum Basically by definition, because their politics are half-defined by worse scum. It’s not about sincerity, it’s that they don’t even have a functional belief system to convert. The best thing you can do to move a centrist is pull people with an actual ideology left.