I see it referenced constantly here, not quite as much on Reddit. I know what it means, but just wondering why such the popularity over on this side of the fence?

  • Auzy@beehaw.org
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    5 months ago

    Exactly. It’s actually turning me off Lemmy completely.

    And some of the times I’ve seen it used, the evidence was weak. Once challenged, it often resulted in the “trust me, you’ll see in a few years time” line

  • Sentient Loom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Because Lemmy is one attempt to do the exact opposite. Seems pretty obvious to me.

    Also, Cory Doctorow’s troll army is working full time.*

    *(Just joking but I refuse to do the sarcastic cute S thing)

  • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    I’d guess because since reddit accelerated it’s enshitification, the people who really cared about it moved to lemmy. The people who didn’t care as much stayed behind. So the people over here care about it much more.

  • originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    People here are far more likely to be anti-capitalist, anti-corporate, pro-privacy, etc. those groups all circle the same kind of Cory Doctorow/Matt Stoller/Luddite world where the word enshittification became popular.

    • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      Oh wow that’s the first time in a loooooooooong minute I’ve seen someone use Luddite in its pre-corrupted state; I was about to be MAD AS SHIT.

      • originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee
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        5 months ago

        Well that’s because you’re a tech-hating Luddite most likely \s

        Yeah since I learned who the Luddites were I’ve kind of fallen in love with them

        • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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          5 months ago

          It’s genuinely criminal how badly their reputations got tarred; when I heard what they were actually about I was genuinely struck like “my god there WERE people who felt the way I do”. Like-- I’m literally a communist, I don’t believe there will ever be a point of human existence where meaningful, dignifying labor has been ‘abolished’; nor do I think we should aspire to that.

          Automate away the drudgery, the sinecurial, and the tedious, sure, that’s all well and good and should be done; but that which lets a person create, to make something useful, that they could be proud of? Tech shouldn’t be eliminating that, and that very much feels like the future we’re going toward.

      • hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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        5 months ago

        I assume they mean in the original term, that technology should be used to make life better, not to damage peoples employment.

        • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          5 months ago

          I had no idea the term Luddite had any meaning beyond the colloquial definition of shunning technology in general. Thanks for giving me something to read about today.

          • Stovetop@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            I had no idea myself until just recently. The 99% Invisible podcast had a decent episode about it which I listened to that helped put it all into context.

            The short story is that it was a labor movement trying to prevent mill owners from abusing workers by using automation to bleed the maximum productivity out of the fewest people. The Luddites would break into mills and smash the “infringing” machines. Tensions rose, the Luddites were eventually crushed, and the term Luddite was intentionally rebranded by capitalists to be synonymous with ignorant/anti-intellectual so that no one would ever want to associate with them again.

  • owenfromcanada@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    While there are thousands of communities on Lemmy, there are a few topics that get a lot of attention. Linux/programming is one of those, and the enshittification trend is particularly pronounced in the tech sector. Another big topic is workers’ rights and other grass-roots movements, which again deal largely with fighting against corporate greed (embodied in the enshittification trend). The intersection of these two major topics (and possibly others) means you’ll see more of that here right now.

    • overload@sopuli.xyzOP
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      5 months ago

      Ah yeah that makes sense. So many tech communities here I’ve noticed. Always put it down to tech people being more willing/able/knowledgable to move to something better!

  • shrugal@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Cause it’s one big part of why the Fediverse and Lemmy exist in the first place.

    We wouldn’t need all this decentralization overhead if centralized sites were trustworthy and focussed on serving their users. The fact that they are not is what leads to privacy violations and enshittification, hence why people created the Fediverse and why we are here (at least most of us I presume).

  • Azzu@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    It’s funny that you used the phrase “this side of the fence”, because the fence in that metaphor is exactly the line marking the territory of “enshittification” and “anti-enshittification” ^^

  • tiny@midwest.socialEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Along with the views of it’s users it’s just fun to say things like enshitification and the great enshittening

  • AA5B@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Remember when things were better, before all the enshittification ? Pepperidge Farms remembers

  • glitchdx@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I’m only here because I’m pissed at the enshitification of elsewhere. Of course Imma talk about it.

  • xia@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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    5 months ago

    It’s like the weeping angels from doctor who, the moment you take your eyes off the shit waves, you’re covered in it.

  • forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Reddit is inside the walls of enshittification. Reddit kowtows to the techbro narrative. Dissenting voices do appear there as they aren’t a full blown censorship. By and large the reddit userbase has historically been in aligned with big tech.