As an example consider unarmed meter maids. They write parking tickets. They rarely get into gun fights. They rarely get shot at. Because when you encounter a meter made even if you’re a career criminal, they’re just going to give you a ticket. You know this can’t escalate in spiral out of control. So people don’t shoot meter maids.
So what you’re saying is make it a wrist slap and nobody will get upset? lol. Forget the fact you’re moving the goalpost from, “they retaliated because of prison conditions” to, “it’s because the police were armed!”
The real reason is these were bad dudes in a terrible state of mind and society failed them long before this point. More criminals voluntarily do a crime just to get 3 meals a day and shelter. Can’t be that terrible if many are doing that, can it? It’s also not like people don’t resist arrest in countries where police are unarmed.l
I’m not going to discount America’s plethora of issues from 1) terrible education, 2) terrible health care systems, and 3) Below-average prison conditions just to name the big 3.
But, this guy had a massive criminal record going back over a decade. He was a massive piece of shit, and the vast majority of people served warrants simply do not engage in a shoot-out, putting a child and mother at risk. For as much shit as I give police officers, this is a reflection of the criminal’s state of mind and not anything the police did. I seriously doubt this dude had the foresight to consider prison conditions.
As you said he has a big criminal record, maybe this would be his third strike? Maybe this would end his parole etc…
So let’s work with the theory this was the straw that would break the camel’s back, third strike possession of a firearm, send him away forever. I’m not saying I agree with his actions, but I can see how people would react in that situation
He’s been well beyond the 3rd strike for quite some time as I gleaned from reading.
There’s really no good alternative about it. The police did what they should’ve done. They got a warrant and pursued a bad guy. There really is no justification for what he did. If anything, it justifies arming the police more in order to enforce the law; for there is no substantive evidence to the contrary to suggest that if they came bearing balloons and flowers he wouldn’t gun them down just the same. That’s the thing about criminally insane people… They are not consistent.
What he did is ensure every cop is doubly-armed and on-edge in the future, for every cop has no alternative. After all, they don’t control the prison system or the healthcare system or the education system.
As an example consider unarmed meter maids. They write parking tickets. They rarely get into gun fights. They rarely get shot at. Because when you encounter a meter made even if you’re a career criminal, they’re just going to give you a ticket. You know this can’t escalate in spiral out of control. So people don’t shoot meter maids.
What the actual fuck hahaha.
So what you’re saying is make it a wrist slap and nobody will get upset? lol. Forget the fact you’re moving the goalpost from, “they retaliated because of prison conditions” to, “it’s because the police were armed!”
The real reason is these were bad dudes in a terrible state of mind and society failed them long before this point. More criminals voluntarily do a crime just to get 3 meals a day and shelter. Can’t be that terrible if many are doing that, can it? It’s also not like people don’t resist arrest in countries where police are unarmed.l
There might be some systemic reason why the United States has the most bad dudes per capita as evidenced by prisoner population.
And yes the severity of punishment does factor into how strongly people resist being punished.
Is the goal to make people suffer? Or is the goal to rehabilitate people?
I’m not going to discount America’s plethora of issues from 1) terrible education, 2) terrible health care systems, and 3) Below-average prison conditions just to name the big 3.
But, this guy had a massive criminal record going back over a decade. He was a massive piece of shit, and the vast majority of people served warrants simply do not engage in a shoot-out, putting a child and mother at risk. For as much shit as I give police officers, this is a reflection of the criminal’s state of mind and not anything the police did. I seriously doubt this dude had the foresight to consider prison conditions.
As you said he has a big criminal record, maybe this would be his third strike? Maybe this would end his parole etc…
So let’s work with the theory this was the straw that would break the camel’s back, third strike possession of a firearm, send him away forever. I’m not saying I agree with his actions, but I can see how people would react in that situation
He’s been well beyond the 3rd strike for quite some time as I gleaned from reading.
There’s really no good alternative about it. The police did what they should’ve done. They got a warrant and pursued a bad guy. There really is no justification for what he did. If anything, it justifies arming the police more in order to enforce the law; for there is no substantive evidence to the contrary to suggest that if they came bearing balloons and flowers he wouldn’t gun them down just the same. That’s the thing about criminally insane people… They are not consistent.
What he did is ensure every cop is doubly-armed and on-edge in the future, for every cop has no alternative. After all, they don’t control the prison system or the healthcare system or the education system.