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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/14869314
“I want to live forever in AI”
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Consciousness and conscience are not the same thing, this naming is horrible
Hey, just be glad I changed it from asdf_test_3, okay?
This just makes it more realistic
A copy is fine. I can still seek vengeance on my enemies from before grave.
It’s definitely an improvement to just being plain old dead
void teleport(Person person);
I’ve always said that teleporters are just suicide machines that sometimes spit a clone out somewhere else.
Whats the difference between
void fn(Type& var)andvoid fn(Type* var)?I guess you ask for C++. There Type* can be null while Type& can’t be null. When it gets compiled Type& is compiled (mostly) to the same machinecode as Type*.
Sends original data vs making a copy of data and sending it.
In meme context you’d be just making a copy of your consciousness and putting it in a machine. Whatever reason you’re doing it for - escape illness, survive armageddon, nothing changes for you. A copy of you lives on though.
It’s not like the post, secont is a pointer.
I mean, just kill the host as soon as the upload is complete. at best you are not conscious during the process and when “you” wake up you are in the cloud. The version of you that awakes gets told that the “transfer” was complete.
Upload is a fun show
I was thinking more along the lines of St. Junipero :D
Future man season 2?
Black Mirror
Oh I know San junipero, just suggesting the plot of season 2 of future man as another similar reference - minds uploaded to “the cloud” and bodies destroyed on upload complete. Haley Joel Osmand is pretty decent as the antagonist of that season.
You can pass nullptr in the second example (that is not what OP wrote though, hes second is making a copy).
Thanks, I was Just curious. I knew what * did but I wasn’t sure about &
It needs an empty catch block
That’s why I’m going for brain in a jar.
I had to turn my phone sideways and go cross-eyed to spot the difference.
everyone watch this clip and tell me what you think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szzVlQ653as
what if it’s year 3000 right now and we’re all playing a game?
The comic sans makes this even deeper
At least it’s not Comic Sans IN THE IDE (or vim/emacs for the brave).
Comic sans in vim is peak insanity
Who the fuck uses comic sans for programming? I use comic mono.
Seriously, I kinda want to use it for my markdown files.
damn bro
Are you sure the roon of today is a reference to yesterday’s roon?
What needs to happen for it to actually work.
bool uploadConsciousness(Consciousness&& Conscience) {Soma is a wonderful game that covers this type of thing. It does make you wonder what consciousness really is… Maybe the ability to perceive and store information, along with retrieving that information, is enough to provide an illusion of consistent self?
Or maybe it’s some competely strange system, unkown to science. Who knows?
Provide the illusion to whom?
I think the definition of consciousness needs to not be solely about abilities or attributes. It needs to account for the active process of consciousness. Like a hair dryer can burn things… but a fire is things burning. Without the active nature its simply not conscious.
What if you do it in a ship of theseus type of way. Like, swapping each part of the brain with an electronic one slowly until there is no brain left.
Wonder if that will work.
Right? Like what if as cells die or degrade instead of being replaced by the body naturally they are replaced by nanites/cybernetics/tech magic. If the process of fully converting took place over the course of 10 years, then I don’t see how the subject would even notice.
It’s an interesting thing to ponder.
The subject also doesn’t notice if you end their consciousness either.
The tv show Pantheon figures it will work, but it will be very disturbing.
Was looking for the Pantheon reference in this thread! Just finished that show and loved it. Of course it takes plenty of liberties for the sake of the storytelling, but still, at least it explores these interesting topics!
Anyone reading this thread, do yourself a favor and check out Pantheon!
If I remember right, the game The Talos Principle calls that the Talos principle
Sounds like the sort of the The Talos Principle would call that
would’ve made more sense if it was rust
Plottwist: consciousness is : Copy
It’s pinned and
!Unpin, and only has private constructors.Uploading is a matter of implementing
Clone
The semantics in Rust would be completely out of wack. What does ownership mean?
I guess the point of the joke is that consciousness is a shallow value.
#[derive(Clone, Copy)] struct Consciousness {...} fn upload_brain(brain: Consciousness) -> Result<(), Error>If we’re gonna have a dystopian future, then damn it, it’s gonna be memory safe.
This prospect doesnt bother me in the least. I’ve already been replaced 5 times in my life so far. The soul is a spook. Let my clone smother me in my sleep and deal with the IRS instead.
“The soul is a spook”
I’m sorry I understand those words not in those orders though, are you saying the soul is an olde timey anti-black racial slur or that it’s inherently scary?
Spook = ghost (aka a soul unhoused a living body)
spook
could also indicate ghost or intelligence operative. I don’t assume they were going racist with it.
Spook is from the german “spuking” which means haunting. Its use in this context comes from the german philosopher Max Stirner who is infamous for the memes where X is declared to be a spook.
Understanding what exactly spooks are is somewhat challenging, and plenty of people get the wrong ubderstanding about what is meany by spooks. But at least in the meme way of using the word, a spook is anything you think is a fairy tale, or nonsense that you don’t care about.
A spook is a pretty niche concept from philosophy, I believe coined by Max Stirner
It basically means a social construct that is being taken as if it is a real factual thing instead of something made up?
I am bad at explaining stuff but I hope you get the gist of it.
Damn dude. Was each time a death? I think a someone’s following me around and snuffing me out. Mandela Effects keep happening. Also I’m getting elf ears? Reality is weird.
Also I’m getting elf ears?
plastic surgery - that shit’s expensive. use that money for something better lol!
I feel like there’s a great story behind each one of the five
Makes me wonder how many times I’ve been replaced. Also makes me wonder if I just died yesterday and today I’m actually a new person. I have no evidence that yesterday happened except for a memory of it, and let’s face it, since it was a public holiday, that’s a pretty foggy memory
yeah, went down this rabbit hole recently: what if I’m the .001% that lives until <max age variable for my genome>? or what if ‘me’ is an amalgam of all the ones that die, and I get to live all those lives until the variable runs out.
I wonder about that. During the deepest part of sleep does your brain have enough activity to maintain a continuous stream of consciousness? If you go through two sleep cycles in a night does yesterday you die, and you from the first sleep cycle who only dreamed die, and you’re a new consciousness in the morning?
Going under deep anesthesia brought up these questions for me: if my consciousness was interrupted, am I the same person? Ultimately I don’t believe I’ll ever know, and must seek to become comfortable with that discomfort.
Dreaming is just the brain butchering who you were and placing whatever’s left in storage as decaying trophies.
