Fuck Mike Johnson
Mike Johnson is pushing to get Ukraine aid. It’s part of why mtg is trying to get him removed. So while there are other issues with him, this isn’t one of them
All Mike Johnson has to do is schedule an up or down vote on the Ukraine Aid bill that the Senate approved months ago. That’s it. He has failed to do even that.
If he does, it’ll be downvoted and fail. That’s what you want?
Given both Republicans and Democrats overwhelmingly voted for the Ukraine aid bill in the Senate, it will sail past an easy majority vote in the House. All Mike Johnson has to do is schedule a vote, a thing he has been stalling for months while Ukrainians die, Russians make advances, and America’s allies are forced to confront the reality of an unreliable American partnership.
If he does, it’ll be downvoted and fail. That’s what you want?
I wanted him to do his job and put it up for a vote, where it just passed today with a supermajority in the House. Would have been so much simpler if he would have done this months ago.
Different bill months ago.
I don’t get the impression he is trying very hard
We can use this argument? I don’t get the impression Biden is trying very hard on all sorts of things.
For example, Biden went around congress to get weapons to Israel. So why isn’t he doing that for Ukraine?
The administration has gone around congress
Ok. Keep doing it.
Alternatively, Mike Johnson could simply call a vote. Congress is useless
So we’ve established neither Mike Johnson nor Joe Biden are trying very hard to help Ukraine.
We will receive the Ukrainian ladies with open arms into our countries. Once they decide to migrate, of course 🧐🧐🧐🐈
Thst guy ain’t right
Issue is, they’ll be taken as war trophies by the Russians.
You’re disgusting. Instead of worrying about the plight of millions you and your buddy here decide to objectify women who have lost their fathers, brothers, husbands and friends to a horrific war.
You disgust me.
That wasn’t my intention, however the realities of this war point in that direction.
What the fuck if wrong with you?
This is sending a giant red flag to America’s allies: we will not support you in times of war, do not rely on us since we will drop you whenever it is politically convenient to do so.
Sadly, this shouldn’t be the case and it’s indicating an abdication of responsibility in being the Arsenal of Democracy for the free world.
Except if our religious conservatives vouch for you. Then you get the platinum package and a blind eye.
Not really.
Look at Israel.
America is Israel’s bitch, different situation.
I feel Turkey going with the Chinese moonbase instead of the US “moonbase” will come up as a turning point in future history books. Trump hollowed out a great deal of the remaining good will to the US. Biden can’t turn the corner with the potential of trump returning. The US should get ready to be a regional power in 50 years, after people in europe and asia get tired of hosting their bases for no protection.
As conservatives cheer. Conservatives did this. Your conservative neighbors, co-workers, family members and acquaintances… They all did this.
No they didn’t.
That pov only has value inside of america. This is a two sided sword, conservatives acted against it, democrats didnt do enough, and from outside, america choosed to let ukraine rot.
Thinking retrospectively, It’s a good thing that they stoped their counteroffensive last year and ended up distributing forces in the multiple fronts.
Then these conservatives should be the first to go fight ww3 with Russia.
Their kids will probably be honored to die for their country.
A smart soldier focuses on letting the other side die for theirs.
I think a lot of people forget how before the war, but after the 2014 annexure, Ukraine begged to be able to buy western weapons, such as the javelin, because one random guy can take out a whole tank (great force multipliers against the russian bear). Great deterrent. But they were not approved because they fought giving arms for Ukraine would provoke and not deter, and that dialog and greater economic integration with Russia would be the solution.
So the west miscalculated, luckily Russia as well and Kiev did not fall, but now Ukraine is in a war, and unlike previously where they could have put resources into acquiring western weapons, they now have to input their resources into fighting and defending their country.
The EU and America have stepped up initially, like 90% of the pledges went straight back into the American economy, since the give Ukraine their old stock and manufacture replacement stock for themselves. EU is close to matching USAs total contributions and if you look at France and their economy’s size they are percentage wise out spending the US in contributions.
The nice thing here is most support money gets spend in their own country, stimulating their economy, Ukraine is putting their own citizens and soldiers life on the line and it will weaken a common Nato foe. But not supporting Ukraine will emboldened Russia and now that most of their military ineptitude and corruption has been exposed and is being improved, Russia might calculate further expansion, since that is their modus operandi.
giving arms for Ukraine would provoke and not deter
This rationale is given time and time again for why we shouldn’t have supported Ukraine and every time it’s completely false.
Hopefully people can learn from this history and not make the same mistakes in the past.
Ukraine should’ve mined the shit out of their border with Russia.
Exactly, but hindsight is 20/20. What I wanted to show was that a lack of support for Ukraine was then a win for Russia. But even more so now, that a lack of full continuous support for Ukraine today is just another win for Russia.
why does America have to do everything? the EU will be far more negatively impacted if Russia wins (energy, food, trade in general) - why arent the EU member states doing more?
Because America spent a lot of time trading security for political points. Nobody is interested in having given the points and now also have to do the security.
In recent years EU countries have been growing their armies and relying less on America, but nobody is ready to fight Russia. If America actually started withdrawing its promises and overseas assets, europe would wake up; but america doesn’t want that.
What are political points?
Read some history and find out why the US is called the arsenal of Democracy.
I really hope Europe can step up to fill America’s gap, because it’s clear that America will not get its shit together in time to help at this point, if it ever will again.
This has been so frustrating to watch. We have half of our country bootlicking the Russian leader that their cult leader is strangely endeared towards. This was our opportunity to really do the right thing and support a people defending themselves and their democracy. Something we as Americans could have been proud of for generations. But no. Republicans couldn’t have us do the right thing. Not even once.
Don’t say half the country - most of the country doesn’t vote. Trump got 74m votes and the US has a population of 330m.
You’re right. Not voting is a vote for Trump, so much more than half.
Biden should go around congress to ship them weapons.
Can’t buy weapons without money.
The US and our allies cannot produce weapons at a rate faster than Russia does with 10% of the budget. Increasing our military budget further is going to make our national security situation worse
