Discord👏Is👏Not👏A👏Replacement👏For👏 Websites
I often revere the people who can do smart shit.
I really shouldn’t. Using discord is dumb. Using discord for a switch emulator, while Nintendos lawyers are waking around with their cocks out is stupid.
I’ve said this recently, but intelligence is domain specific. People just being generally “smart” is not a thing people should really care about.
It’s not a matter of intelligence, these people just have different priorities.
If their priority is to make a nintendo emulator, they have to think about keeping their lines of communication secure against corporate legal threats, because those lines of communication are basically what software development is.
Sure, but they also need to be on a platform that people actually use. I agree that there are lots of reasons against Discord, but my point is, they didn’t choose Discord because of a lack of intelligence.
Have you considered that the person you consider smart is focusing all their brain power on their projects and they don’t have time to set up and maintain a website? That’s what discord is for, an easy, quick and dirty community aggregate
Creating a channel on freenode takes seconds
I will say this, if you are a Lemmy user, sure probably.
But I did a simple websearch for “how to set up a freenode server.” The very first 3 things I saw (what fits on the screen) were a page full of syntax, a 13 minute YouTube video, and a page where the first thing that’s written is literally “Internet Relay Chat is a difficult thing to get used to, especially for people who were born into this world of full graphical interfaces and messaging web apps that handle user interaction seamlessly.”
For the average user, creating a channel does not “take seconds” if you need proof, discord. Its popular because it is so easy to use and the numbers back that up
Uhm, freenode already exists, you don’t have to set up another server just to create a channel. There are clients that are embeddable into webpages as well, so joining an existing channel could be as simple as opening a page for a new user.
Otherwise it’s just install a client, select freenode and join the channel.
I challenge you to find a non tech savvy person who can do this In under 10 minutes.
Lemmy is absolutely an echo chamber of the tech minded, you have to remember most people wouldn’t be able to even get on this platform because that “little bit of effort” is way too much for them
You all should have stayed on IRC
You all should have stayed on IRC
You’re not wrong, but also, it’s way too complicated for the regular person to use. A better UX is needed.
TIL that typing in a username, server address and hitting ‘Connect’ is a bad UX.
GUI > CL. 😇
I get the testicular fortitude that someone has to have to make that kind of comment here on Lemmy, that has very hardcore Linux tech-based audience, but still, the general electronics using public would agree with what I’m saying.
TIL that typing in a username, server address and hitting ‘Connect’ is a bad UX.
UX is more than just a single login.
People downvoting you don’t seem to remember the whole “messages aren’t delivered while you’re not online” thing
I used to on irc when i was 10 fucking years old. You type.in the serve and then type #before the room you want to use.
Did they put lead back in gasoline when i wasn’t looking or something?
I used to on irc when i was 10 fucking years old. You type.in the serve and then type #before the room you want to use.
Did they put lead back in gasoline when i wasn’t looking or something?
We used to fly on planes by laying stomach down on the wing. Didn’t make it the best way to fly though.
The UX of any process/device gets improved over time, and adapts to the generation that is using it.
Would the newest gens even know what a command line prompt even is at this point?
Man fuck Nintendo at this point. WE ARE ALLOWED TO EMULATE, GET FUCKED
This reminds me that I need to uninstall discord. Thanks!
What I hate most about this is how they now moved to Rocket Chat.
Come on people. Use a forum. Get the message, finally. Do it!
I’m pretty sure most of people who mainly use discord as their main social apps probably never touched forum-based internet.
Hosting your own forum is also better as you (the owner of the site) can still retrieve the msgs as long as you still have the access to the host server (so you can back them up in case shutting down, then going to resurfacing later).
Not to mention using discord is already risking yourself because of their shitty policy.
What’s a safe way to host a site without anyone being able to track it to you?
I’ll explain it in layman’s terms…
- There is always a price (inconvenience) for secure-ness in online world.
- There’s 2 option to host a forum,
- You can use service like forum hoster or rent a VPS (so you can setup your own server although not self-hosting).
- Self-host yourself (this one a bit tricky if you aren’t prepared).
- Learn some good basic OpSec habit (eg. Never use same password, Never put your personal detail in your active directory especially on your site source document, use 2FA and so on).
- Learn to spot a phising or malicious link and never to randomly click random link in an email (in times when someone tried to social engineering you).
- Use reputable service provider if you are not going to self-host yourself.
- If you happen to self-host, make sure to check your open ports and secure them. Bots always probing any site in the world!
- For some reason if you’re going to run sketchy stuff, never use your real credential. This point may not apply on your region as it depends on your local law.
They need to be using an encrypted platform hosted in a country out of reach of Nintendo
Not platform. Protocol.
Discord is the antithesis to free web. Stop using it. I won’t join any community using discord.
Oh yeah, and fuck Nintendo
Could you (or someone) elaborate on that first point there?
It’s a closed system owned by a single company. If you provide data or information there, the company owns the data, other people can’t find the data using search engines and they would need an account to access the data. Imagine the internet is owned by a single company and they could sell, change, censor, delete restrict access to or use the information in means you cannot predict.
It’s a closed ecosystem. What else is there to say?
CompareContrast with IRC, Matrix or XMPP.So, it’s the lack of admin rights? Inability to decide your own sitewide TOS, lack of privacy from Discord admins, possibility of getting shut down, that’s what they meant?
(I’m not familiar with those other platforms)
None of those details really matter.
What matters for the point of this argument is the simple fact that Discord is owned by the company Discord Inc.
That includes all of the servers and everything on them.
Imagine if ALL OF THE INTERNET was owned by Google …
So the worry is of a surveillance state?
More than that. They own the content and relationships and can use them in ways you cannot predict. LLMs gobble up human produced content because we entrusted it to corporations. What hit hardest for me was when Facebook published a study where they found they could influence users attitude by prioritizing certain posts in their feeds.
Imagine it. Corporations owning your relationships and using them to get a profit out of you
I started using Discord because Skype was pissing me off. Now, Discord starts to piss me off with their bullshit. I’m just too tired to move to yet another platform that will start sucking once it’s grown bigger. I hate this “social media” focus on every little fucking thing. This stupid “we are building a community” garbage should die.
Maybe it’s time for me to burn everything down and go live in the woods. I don’t particularly resonate with people anyway.
“We will repeat in every sentence that we are not a for-profit emulator, we’ll be fine!”
Yeah.
Side note, is there there a good open source alternative to Discord in terms of it’s exact functionality? (And I don’t mean as a forum alternative, but voice comms and streaming). After their app update, I’m kind of annoyed with them. Yet, my community is rather dependent on them despite their enshittification.
We got sucked in because you could simply link it to randos on MMOs and if they didn’t want to download an app, could still have voice comms in browser. Before that, we had ventrillo, mumble, etc, but nothing was quite as easy access for randos. But man, they kind of suck lately so… hrm. :/
There’s Revolt.chat
I’ll reinforce my comment from months ago: I have the latest version of Yuzu, the keys, the firmware, the Linux and Windows versions, and links to ROM sites, and I’ll distribute them forever to whoever asks in my DMs. I packaged them in a simple .zip with easy to follow instructions.
That said, why simply not use Ryujinx? Even on the Steam Deck performance is very good nowadays. Super Mario Wonder plays at 60 FPS on the Deck (though you need to enable a very simple mod that disables some weird function the game runs, otherwise it drops to 30 FPS all the time). In fact, for AMD GPUs, you’re doing yourself a huge favor by going Ryujinx over Yuzu and derivatives.
Ryujinx is solid, accurate and well known, it’s a trusted emulator. The Yuzu forks are unknown, managed by non experienced people (one was quite literally created by a teenager with zero coding knowledge) and extremely ephemeral.
Hey, Kadu! It’s so good to see you again! I have been using the yuzu zip you sent me, and have been playing the hell out of some of my games. I just wanted to say thank you so freaking much, from the bottom of my heart! 🙏
Thanks for the very kind comment. Happy to hear you’re enjoying Yuzu :)
Ryujinx runs very poorly on older cpus like ryzen 3200G, I played ToTK fine on Yuzu, but on ryujinx the game becomes a slideshow, I also can’t get 60fps on Princess Peach with it.
Yeah Ryujinx is in C# Unity so it has its limits. They wrote Yuzu mostly in C++ so while it tended to be buggy it performed way better.
Ryujinx is for perfect emulation, as in it aims to completely replicate how the Nintendo Switch works. While Yuzu is an emulator that aims for better performance than the Switch while playing Switch games.
You correct in the statement Ryujinx aims for accuracy and does not implement certain performance workarounds Yuzu did. However, your comment is exaggerated. Even Ryujinx isn’t a cycle accurate emulator, nowhere close.
Matrix is a better Discord.
Jabber is a better Matrix.
Why 👏 is 👏 every 👏 word 👏 padded 👏 by 👏 emoticons 👏 ?
You’ve never seen someone clap between every word trying to get their point across?
I have, but the clapping made me think their point wasn’t well thought out.
👏 Your👏 opinion👏 is👏 irrelevant.👏
I💪D😉K🎉My🤔Sister🎃Showed💤Me💅A🌌TikTok🙇Like🦮This🍄One🧩Time
I misread that and thought you were d*cking your sister.
I’m not surprised. It’s not right for Discord to disable the servers and accounts, but at the same time, if you are hosting a community it shouldn’t be on discord since you aren’t in control of it
Wish they gave as much of a shit about shutting down pedophilia and OnlyFans leak servers as they do licking Nintendo’s boots.
Discord is an inherently unsafe platform.
