So, Trump will lose the appeal, KISC will be left with the bill they can’t pay, they’ll fight it on the grounds that they’re not based in NY and delay the judgement by tieing it up in the courts. If Trump wins, he uses his influence to either get them off the hook, or he’ll funnel dirty Russian money into KISC to pay it off for them.
they’ll fight it on the grounds that they’re not based in NY
No, they will add that this will be subject to NY law. Plus some other bits. It was discussed here: https://youtu.be/wEOuLQ_x8yY
Video has an ex-judge that was in the courtroom.
Or Trump will tell Knight Specialty Insurance to pound sand like he does with all his other bills
This is exactly what will happen. Unfortunately that turns it into a civil case so Donald would be able to successfully keep his money.
No, in another article from last week, he had put the amount they wanted in a separate bank account for them. It was more than the settlement amount. The bonder, at the least, isn’t going to lose money from Trump.
If that money is not serving as multiple collateral at once. Stiffing creditors is a big part of the Trump game.
And keep in mind, by the time he would lose on appeal trump owes 500 million. The government will then ask the bondsman for the 175 million and ask/ take from Trump any assets to complete the fine, starting with liquid assets like a bank account with cash then auctioning off illiquid assets for cash.
How the bondsman recupes from Trump is the bondsman’s problem. But I cannot imagine they have dibs on his cash.
That’s why was clear that he would either make it disappear using his position as dictator, or use someone else’s money.
Stiffing them is definitely in the cards too though.I mean, he didn’t even pay Rudy, and that man stood in a goddamn landscaping company forecourt to defend his election stealing attempt.
Refusing to pay back a loan is straight “for me it was Tuesday” territory. Serves them right for lending it to him.
Presidency for sale. All you need is $175M to buy out the democracy
It’s always been, but how much is it to buy a president who doesn’t support genocide? Are any of those available?
‘Perfection’ is the enemy of ‘better’.
You’re also “both sides”-ing it.
Go back to your cave troll.
Your view of geopolitics is infantile
Please elaborate
The US isn’t supporting Israel because they are pro-genocide
They support them because it’s their only real ally in the region
…but they are supporting and enabling a state that is currently engaging in genocide, right? Do you see how that could be confusing for folks that aren’t as agile and versed in mental gymnastics?
Edit: so this is some kind of abusive friendship that is desirable? What has Israel done for the US? Maybe the US doesn’t need to be involved in that area then…
This will provide some context for you to wrap your brain around
I wouldn’t really consider the Australian Financial Review a cornerstone of geopolitical argument or respected journalism. I can see how someone who uses that as a morale compass might have different opinions than myself though.
Unfortunately no we’re all out of those. Try back in I dunno, 28 years maybe.
Shut up
Are we not allowed to say the ‘G’ word here too? Or is it more upsetting that the American democracy goes to the highest bidders?
Here comes the BoTh SiDeR. I’d take Genocide Joe over Traitor Trump any day.
Bro do you hear yourself? You are picking genocide… like wtf.
Yeah listen to yourself. Calling him Genocide Joe as if that region was bastion of peace since last 2000+ years and Joe somehow came up with this idea - hey what if we do a little genocide here.
Get the fuck out of here if you can not see that this war is waged with exactly one purpose - distract the pro-democracy movements all around the world and people like you are either complicit or at least useful idiots playing in the hands of pro-war fascists.
Unfortunately, when your options are picking the guy who supports genocide or picking the guy who absolutely will also support genocide but is worse in every other way, you have you make choices you aren’t happy with. I think it’s safe to say few people here want the genocide to continue, we are simply powerless to do anything about it.
After years of it being a meme this guy still doesn’t understand the trolly problem
How dumb do you have to be to not realize that there’s no choice available that isn’t genocide? There is (and was in 2020) no one on the ticket with a chance of winning that wasn’t going to support Israel.
If the choice is genocide, or genocide harder plus fascism, you’d have to have your head caved in to think that trump is the better choice. I fucking hate it, but that’s reality at the moment
Jesus, how are we here? No choice of a candidate that doesn’t support Israel despite them committing (currently, like right now) genocide.
What a fucking mess.
True. Now vote in the least-worse like an adult and campaign for actual decency on the next run.
If I pick “Sleepy Joe” does that mean I’m picking sleep?
See how stupid that is?
No, Biden is the president right NOW. The election is over half a year away. This has nothing if to do with Trump…this is about an active genocide. Biden has the power to stop support; this is on him, not on the people speaking up against genocide
Edit: I mean we could have 6+ months of not supporting a state engaging in genocide no matter how the election goes, and I think that’s ok. Hell, Biden might even gain supporters if he stop aid to Israel…but that’s not brought up.
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Remember when someone said there are two choices here, and both perpetuated genocide but one was also worse in every other aspect?
You either pick the least-worse choice, or accept that your silence endorsed or at least accepted the worse one.
That’s the choice. Voting in a bad choice is a tough thing to do, and it’s the second-worst thing that could happen that day.
Please explain how trump would have been better and not worse in the Isreal situation?
He would/will be so much goddamn worse.
And all these fucking trolls who suddenly care about the plight of the Palestinian people (really guys they do), insofar as they can use it to criticize the president of the United States, will be nowhere to be found.
Those that are actually real will crawl back into their holes, and never admit they were wrong to push people to not vote.
It’s still pretty fucky, but I guess if that’s good enough for the judge…
The judge is being cautious because he knows how much Trump abuses the appeals process
Interesting context. Thanks, I’ll keep this in mind.
I think Trump’s buddy Vince McMahon has liquidated all his stock and is sitting on like 2 billion cash, I thought he was gonna bail Trump out honestly. These rapists like to stick together.
Vince is way too selfish for that if theirs no guarantee ROI
The ROI used to be getting his wife into politics. That ship has sailed with their separation and his numerous allegations.
If Trump can get him back into his company, that $2B is basically his.
I heard they’ve always had a competitive thing going, like “my plane is nicer than yours!” Type thing. It’s crazy that the last time I watched wrestling like 20 years ago, Vince was a low millionaire, now he’s a billionaire and way richer than Trump and can prove it. He’s probably waving his money in Donald’s face and laughing.
Its crazy that they’re both rapists that still have money and freedom.
Rape isn’t so bad
It’s skipping rent and stealing food that you have to look out for
People who can’t see the sarcasm in your statement need to go back to reddit.
I find Lemmy in general significantly worse at detecting sarcasm compared to reddit, not that reddit was very good in this respect.
You’re completely right, the people here are worse than Redditors. Way more aggressive, rude, echo chambery. You can’t even disagree in three nicest “please educate me” way, and you’ll still get called names, downvoted, and get nasty DMs.
I figured McMahon was liquifying his assets so he could flee to Switzerland if and when he’s charged with human trafficking
“We’re serious this time, super pinky swear!”
- the American justice system
I’m counting to 3.
- 1
- 2
- 2.1
- 2.2
- 2.25
- 2.26
- 2.27
You’re hired! - Valve
Half-life 2.27 confirmed!
Who goes from 2 to 2.1? It’s always 2 ½, 2 ¾, 2 ⅞, and so on.
While I agree with your Zeno’s Paradox method, the previous commenter’s counting method better reflect the absurd kid-gloves approach that the “justice” system has been treating that scumbag with.
True, but most parents aren’t anticipating an attempt to overthrow the government or legitimate death threats against them and their family if they make the “wrong” move.
Freedom fractions
I didn’t want to type fractions. Thanks for looking them up.
judge: and now you have the money?
defendant: yes, this time it’s real
judge: for really reals?
defendant: for really reals
))<>((
Judge: Suuuuper for really reals? No takesies backsies!
I’ve been watching a lot of SovCit videos (I’m not sure why). I’m actually surprised at how much the court puts up with.
It’s always important to remember that “putting up with stuff” for judges is mostly them making their case appeal prove. Because the judge accepts the bond, now they can’t really bring it up on appeal. That’s the whole reason.
The judge is only more lenient because he wants to pin Trump down and leave him without good arguments on appeal, which is what we want - nothing would be worse than to see everything get overturned.
“appeal-proof”, I think you meant to say.
That’s the abbreviation for ppl who know how this works.
abbreviation? what? Nothing is being abbreviated anywhere.
you wrote “appeal prove”. That doesn’t make any sense. “Prove” is the wrong word. The correct word is “proof”.
Specifically, prove is a verb. A doing word. You prove things. Like walk, or run. But things cannot have or be “prove”. I walk down the road. I prove my case.
Proof is either a noun or an adjective, depending on which word of it you use. In this instance, proof means resistant. Like waterproof speakers.
edit: and to add, I hyphenated appeal-proof because appealproof isn’t a word. Perhaps you confused hyphenation with abbreviation somehow?
My bad I’m typing on a smartphone and I’m not a native English speaker
You’re not kidding, they get so many chances even when security needs to be called. Part of me is cynical though. It’s always white guys in white courts, at least from what I’ve seen. I wonder how a black guy in a white court in one of those redneck states would be treated.
Lol it won’t though.
I think the only way it gets paid is if he finds a way to get someone else to pay it. Or 30 million someone elses.
The headline seems a bit inaccurate. It stipulates that the bond will be accepted as long as Trump’s collateral for the bond – $175M held in an account with Charles Schwab – is not invested in securities. So as long as it sits there liquid. Essentially it makes all the wishy washy language in the deal and the debate about the bond issuer’s cash on hand kind of moot and almost as if Trump had put up $175M in escrow.
Seems like cash in escrow is how bonds should work.
To think that Trump is still a running president candidate and endorsing by republican is crazy.
Or am I too sensitive? Maybe I’m just an outsider (not American) and doesn’t know what I’m talking about.
No, you reflect how a lot of Americans feel. For me it’s not just Trump himself that’s crazy, but the politics around Trump. A decent chunk of population wants an autocrat running the show.
Unfortunately there’s also a lot of Americans being hoodwinked into thinking that this is now part and parcel of modern politics, the other guy is worse and the “liberal media” bury it. In a normal world, the polls should not be 50/50 if one of them is Trump.
Murdoch has been working on Repub propaganda for decades and that mass brainwashing has been successful.
I wonder what the odds in Vegas are on Trump somehow getting that money out and stiffing the bonds company if he loses the appeal.
The judge was just using a metaphor, but I like to think that he was actually referring to a fictional TV show which was about a crafty politician, but that crafty politician was played by a guy who devoted his off-time to sexual assault and sexual harassment.
Why doesn’t New York just hand him several million dollars and a court ordered professional wanking? He’s defied court orders, threatened staff and family of the court, missed deadlines, provided fraudulent agreements. He has done all sorts of misconduct. If it were one of us, we’d be in jail with our assets seized.
