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      6 months ago

      The same fearmongering we heard in 2016 and 2020. You must save Democracy for the 12th year in a row by voting Democrat!!

      After Trump dies some other Republican will take over that says crazier shit and then you must keep saving Demoracy by always voting Democrat. Never vote third party.

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        Well historically I’ve voted independent. I’m Canadian, but we have similar party issues.

        Honestly seeing shit like this though, if it really is just fearmongering, it’s fucking working. This shit looks horrifying to me, I’d probably end up voting for Biden just to not let trump in. And I fucking hate Biden.

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          Trump already won in 2016 and the world didn’t end back then. It’s not going to be better than Biden but it sure as hell isn’t going to be as bad as people here make it out to be.

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            I hope you’re right. It went about how I thought it would go last time. That insurrection thing threw me though. And all the court cases coming after trump, as well as that project 2025 thing, this time seems different to me.

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              If the Dems were serious about prosecuting him he wouldn’t get bailed out at the last second every time.

              Also Dems purposely delayed the inserruction case now the verdict won’t be until after the election. Real convenient now nothing can stop Trump except voting for Biden.

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                If that’s actually their game plan, then that’s the most idiotic game plan I’ve ever seen and it is definitely going to put trump back in the White House.

                They can’t seriously be that stupid though. Can they?

                I think it could be possible that this is the game plan they’re going with because it’s lazy and won’t piss off any donors, which doing things actual leftists want would definitely do.

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                  The DNC screwed over Bernie in 2016 to make sure a real progressives wouldn’t win. They shoved in Hillary which was (and is) so bad she lost to Trump 1.

                  The Clintons actually suggested Trump to run thinking he’d be such a pathetic opponent that it would land them an easy victory.

                  Make no mistake, the Democrats prefer having Trump win over someone that could actually impose change.

                  Trump is their perfect enemy because they can keep running trash candidates and having them win solely on “not Trump”.

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                    Democrat voters screwed over Bernie, not the DNC. Bernie was on every single ballot. All people would have had to do is actually get off of their pampered asses and go vote for him. They didn’t. She won. We got Trump as a result.

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            What a charmed life you must lead. I wasn’t really affected by his policies either but have you noticed the way things have been turning for the people his goons have been targeting since the chuds became empowered?

            It is imperative that we bury the GOP first. Then, we absolutely can and should go knives out on Team Blue™️. I don’t disagree that Biden needs to go, and that most of the Democrats are obstacles at best to truly repairing our long-dead society. Hell, don’t just vote, actually fucking run for office, start somewhere where you aren’t so completely outgunned by the moneyed interests but you also actually make a difference. But for now, we need to take down the more immediate threat.

            Throw rocks at me for saying it, but the Dems’ fecklessness is our fault too, to an extent. The problem is complacency when the pendulum appears to have swung in our direction, like “yeah we got the job done!* Let’s have pizza and congratulate ourselves and go back home!” Fortunately, it may finally no longer be the case. But for christ’s sake, can we not throw the baby out with the bathwater? The upcoming, inevitable fight will be less harrowing if we can keep from actively making the battlefield more hazardous, which absolutely will happen with a Trump win.

            *christ, I remember when Obama was elected and there was a false prospect of healthcare reform, Newsweek published a rather insulting cover saying, “we are all socialists now”, simultaneously feeding the right’s paranoia and patronizing the left in such an insulting way

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              You’re not going to bury the GOP by voting Democrat. You will just worsen the situation.

              Biden is continuing to build the wall, jailed twice as many immigrants as Trump, is committing Genocide, and so much more. Biden is just a GOP candidate with D in front of his name. He is one of the biggest establishment democrats who has built his career on empowering the elites.

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            The American fascist party was born prematurely. They’ve spent the last eight years incubating within the Republican party and are ready to go mask-off now.

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              Bush was way worse than Trump.

              Aside from saying some real dumb shit Trumps presidency was a lot milder than expected.

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                  There also wasn’t any hurricane katrina style fiascos under Trump, as well as Trump deciding not to invade Venezuela, which was a surprise. The Syria shit wasn’t great, but it was NOTHING like Iraq.

                  God the bar is set so fucking low it’s embarrassing.

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                    He pulled out of Afghanistan which was amazing.

                    Trump’s biggest fail was when he drone striked Iranian general Suleimani at the request of Israel. But luckily Iran didn’t decide to escalate it so we didn’t get a big war back then.

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                    Nobody thought Trump was going to win until too late. RBG thought the next president would also be a Democrat.

                    But she was also naive and thought that she should do her job as long as possible, and that Republicans could be reasoned with. The court really needs a max age.

                    Regardless, this is a bit moot, since Trump had 3 total SCOTUS picks. RBG’s seat was just one.