It is also important to remember that not all Jews are Zionists. Just like not all Americans support fascism.
And not all Germans were Nazis in 1939.
And not all Palestinians support Hamas
In fact most people everywhere are just trying to get through life while enjoying the small things without hurting others.
Some populations are waaaaaay more bigoted than others thanks to said governments or backwards cultures, but get people one on one and it’s almost always true.
My wife is of Jewish descent, lives in Canada, has no interest in Israel or global politics, but she’s had to deal with a fair bit of bullshit recently just because of her last name. My daughter likes her Jewish ancestry and has been getting bullied in school about it recently
Ah yes, because of the Jewish “freedom fighters” which killed 1500 nazis and kidnapped nazi women and children which was the trigger to the Holocaust. Yes it’s an exact parallel.
Yes, all of the context for the conflict spontaneously started on October 7th. /s
Despite what Israeli propaganda would have you believe, the current “war” did not begin all of a sudden with the Oct 7th attacks, and there was no “permanent ceasefire” in place at that time.
Israel has been illegally occupying Palestinian territory since 1967 (ignoring the fact the latter were ousted from their homeland in 1948, when the modern state of Israel was formed) and has oppressing and ethnic cleansing these areas ever since. The Oct 7th retaliation just spurred on the Netanyahu government to try and finish the job in Gaza once and for all.
Can you remind us who initiated the 6 day war please? Were the allies “illegally” occupying germany after ww2?
Are you related to Joseph Goebbels, perhaps? The brain-rot sounds about the same.
Sure - the 6 Day War was initiated by Israel, which then seized territory in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, and Sinai Peninsula.
This is illegal under international law, particularly according to United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, which Israel has managed to successfully ignore ever since.
So closing the straights of tiran was an act of peace? And totally legal.
Closing the straits was not technically an act of war, and a preemptive strike (like Israel’s) means you start a war first, no matter which way you look at it.
Clippy says “it looks like you’re trying to deny the Holocaust. Can I fetch you a copy of mein kampf?”
I’m sure he has one already.
So what you’re saying is the Nazis overreacted like little bitches?
Wow 1500 now. The number just keeps growing. Is it still Oct7?
Yes. And here are all their names and biographies: https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/swords-of-iron-civilian-casualties
Why is israel including civilians they are killing themselves?
Murdered by israel in Hamas captivity is what your link should say.
how many of the names on that list were struck by apache guns and missiles, or buried in the rubble of a structure which was?
Damn, dude, you just show up once every few months to drop bad take after bad take on us, dontcha?
You know you don’t need to intentionally misunderstand the point, right? That doesn’t really help anyone.
Of course it isn’t an exact parallel. Jews fleeing persecution were given a country in another people’s land. Palestinians fleeing Gaza are being sent back.
Were there no jewish people living in israel prior to 1948? Do the Jewish people have no historical claim to Israel?
The Jewish people living in Palestine at the time were largely ostracized by the immigrating European Zionists. Correct, the Jewish people have no historical claim to the area, given that said claim was won through brutal conquest and genocidal subjugation of the people who already lived there.
There are Palestinians living in America. We should give them Texas.
So if I live in a country then I’m free to bring in everyone considered the same ethnicity as me from anywhere else in the world because of my historic precedent?
“It’s only a Holocaust if it comes from the ghetto regions of Germany, otherwise it’s just sparkling genocide”
Well, it is sus that you can’t say Ashkenazi Jew without Nazi…
And even if the Jews were to win the war, its end would find the unique possibilities and the unique achievements of Zionism in Palestine destroyed. The land that would come into being would be something quite other than the dream of world Jewry, Zionist and non-Zionist. The ‘victorious’ Jews would live surrounded by an entirely hostile Arab population, secluded into ever-threatened borders, absorbed with physical self-defense to a degree that would submerge all other interests and acitvities. The growth of a Jewish culture would cease to be the concern of the whole people; social experiments would have to be discarded as impractical luxuries; political thought would center around military strategy…. And all this would be the fate of a nation that — no matter how many immigrants it could still absorb and how far it extended its boundaries (the whole of Palestine and Transjordan is the insane Revisionist demand)–would still remain a very small people greatly outnumbered by hostile neighbors.
Under such circumstances… the Palestinian Jews would degenerate into one of those small warrior tribes about whose possibilities and importance history has amply informed us since the days of Sparta. Their relations with world Jewry would become problematical, since their defense interests might clash at any moment with those of other countries where large number of Jews lived. Palestine Jewry would eventually separate itself from the larger body of world Jewry and in its isolation develop into an entirely new people. Thus it becomes plain that at this moment and under present circumstances a Jewish state can only be erected at the price of the Jewish homeland…
- Hannah Arendt, 1948
This is why you read your history. This person read their history and was able to use it to look over 70 years in the future.
Except this part
The growth of a Jewish culture would cease to be the concern of the whole people; social experiments would have to be discarded as impractical luxuries; political thought would center around military strategy….
is negated by the fact that Israel has become the most advanced and modern country in that region.
I think they meant less how advanced they were and more that, as time goes on, and their surrounding get more hostile, they will slowly move away from developing a culture of Jewish identity and become more just a martial state.
Called it in 1948 lol
