• A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I’m seconding that guy’s request to show your work. Is God in control or not? And either way, did he or did he not know Lucifer (or whatever you wanna call em) would facilitate evil and terrify believers?

      (Edit): Also gonna leave this verse from another comment here

      Isaiah 45:7 - “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.”

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          8 months ago

          Well enlighten us then. How did the almighty and all-knowing creator of all things not see Lucifer’s rebellion coming and thus intend for it to happen? Go on, show your work.

          Edit: Grammar

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            8 months ago

            I don’t remember what story, but I liked one that described the universe as a machine to sort good soul matter from bad. There has to be a bad choice and there has to be fee will in order for the sorting to work.

            Of course if you think too much about it while stoned, you can throw in a little reincarnation so you’re getting purer evil vs purer good, each time you run through the sort. At that point it probably ends with “So long and thanks for the fish”

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              8 months ago

              Nonreligious but I always kinda thought of the whole thing the same way that evangelion teaches. Where pain and suffering are critical for pleasure. You can’t win without losing being on the table. Without suffering and death good or evil there’s only apathy and numbness. And that’s why God created evil. Without evil your neither good or bad because everything is predetermined and maybe God is just a bored writer trying to put a little bit of drama to make this world he made interesting. Ya never know we might be his version of star wars or Lord of the rings. As a artist you can say I’m god in the eyes of my OCS and I never make my worlds comfortable utopias because no one would be interested in seeing that story continue on for thousands of years let alone billions.

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            8 months ago

            Obviously, the omniscient and omnipotent creator of the universe didn’t know what was going on and could do nothing to stop it.

            Wait a minute…

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      8 months ago

      Look, either 🎼he’s got the whole world 🎵 in his hands 🎶 or he doesn’t 🤷

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        8 months ago

        Man, I want an R-rated film about the bible. With all the gory, crude, sexual details. That orgy where people cum literal buckets. Adam and Eve having kids, that fuck each other and have kids for a few thousand years to populate the earth, what angels look like, some old dude killing his sons (does he actually go through with it? I can’t remember), all that shit.