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🎶You put the feature in, you take the feature out, you put the feature in and shake it all about. 🎶
I’ve been using the Panorama Tab Groups add-on for years, which (as I recall) is pretty similar to the native stuff they inexplicably removed back in the day. It’s currently unmaintained and a little janky in spots but perfectly usable.
I use Simple Tab Groups personally. Been working for years. Might be overkill for some though.
i started using tree style tabs which was absolutely life changing. best computer memory i’ve had in years, it’s a far more logical and space-friendly way to keep lots of tabs open and still be able to read the titles. i feel like specifically grouping adds too much overhead - i have to think about which group to put each into, and think (even a little bit) about where to find it later
Was looking for that! Yeah, tree style tabs just makes researching so much easier. It also just feels good closing a parent tab after falling very deep in a rabbit hole.
Link for firefox if anybody is asking what we are talking about: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/
I love the way the Tree is automatically created. Having the ability to rename the root on the occasion where it’s not intuitive, would be perfect.
So how is that different from their official addon?
It’s nothing like that. The extension you linked is about maintaining separate browser histories and cookie sets, whereas what this post is about is just a new way to organize and manage tabs themselves.
About. Fucking. Time.
An option for an additional tab row would be nice as well. I’m not going to use the dev version to get that working (the only way to do so right now with an add-on)
Not the only way, been using the regular firefox version with multirow enabled via css mod applied.
Finally. Have made the switch over to Firefox a few months ago and this almost made me switch back. I swap context a lot at work / home so being able to group (and minimize said group) tabs helps a lot.
Firefox has profiles, so you can further separate your work browsing from personal browsing. Each profile acts like a separate instance with it’s own history, bookmarks, addons, everything…
Is there a button to switch profiles?
In Gnome you can right click and manage profiles
Ditto KDE
No, and everyone keeps recommending extensions and hacky workarounds. Wish Mozilla would gets its head out of its ass and just add a damn button that runs the
firefox -p [profile]command in the browser itself so we wouldn’t need to use keep a desktop shortcut instead.about:profilesexists too, but isn’t really a lot better.I just leave that pinned / open all the time. Easy peasy.
They really should just add a button. I usually just type in about:profiles in the address bar and select the profile I’ll use.
You can manage profiles from the About Profiles page when Firefox is open. If Firefox won’t start or you need certain options, you can also start the Profile Manager when Firefox is closed.
Yeah no. There’s a reason why they have a “settings” menu even though we could technically all just edit about:config directly
The Multi-Account Containers extension is great for this. Each container keeps its own context, so you can be logged in to the same service twice (or more) in tabs in one window. Can set it up so that some sites will always use a certain container, or that sites in a container will always use a proxy. That is EXTREMELY useful to me.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
They said nothing about that functionality, but yes it is nice for a completely different use case.
Helpful, but not what I’m looking for personally. I want to be logged into the same account, just have groups of tabs related to different tasks I’m working on. Could be documentation for various frameworks or tooling related to whichever language I’m working on. Chrome had this and it worked great.
I just open a new window and that helps keep things organized well for me, but idk, maybe it’s a case of not knowing what I’m missing out on.
This is a good thing, but just as a pet peave - why do people keep so many tabs open on desktop web browsers? Every new tab uses more memory. Computers were not designed to have 100s of tabs open. There is no way anyone actually actively uses 100 tabs, and I see people all the time with so many tabs you can hardly even see what is there. There is a thing called bookmarks and folders for storing commonly visited sites on a computers hard disk rather than temporary RAM…
But I do think it is good firefox is adding the capability, as grouping can be useful if done right in moderation. But it’s just kind of funny the person asking for the feature admits to having huge amounts of tabs open.
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pretty sure if you don’t visit a tab for a while or reopen your browser with the “keep previous tabs” setting thingy on, those tabs are not all loaded in memory. even if I have 100 tabs open, most of them take up negligible space in ram and only load in once I click on it. also I’m lazy and creating/deleting bookmarks is more work than closing/opening tabs.
I believe they do use just as much RAM as current tabs, it’s just computers are better at handling it now.
Mozilla makes reference to them eating RAM, but I’m not 100% sure.
Use fewer tabs
Each tab requires Firefox to store a web page in memory. If you frequently have more than 100 tabs open, consider using a more lightweight mechanism to keep track of pages to read and things to do, such as:
Bookmarks. Hint: “Bookmark All Tabs” will bookmark a set of tabs. Save web pages for later with Pocket for Firefox. To-do list applications.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-uses-too-much-memory-or-cpu-resources
In general, yes more tabs = more RAM used, but Firefox does have a neat trick compared to Chrome that helps lower memory usage for those of us with hundreds of tabs. When you launch Chrome with a bunch of tabs open from a previous session, it actually loads them all into RAM at launch, with Firefox, it doesn’t actually load the pages of tabs from previous sessions, until you switch to them. The page titles and icons get loaded into RAM, obviously, but if you have lots of old tabs that you almost never open, the memory usage impact of lots of tabs is minimized.
My excuse would be ADHD, I constantly lose track of what I’m focusing on and when I do focus on something I want to explore every part of it, that means exploring every path/solution/fact etc about it, then it’s a I want to have this open because I will need in the future like tomorrow or I want to explore it more later so I don’t want to bookmark it because I will lose my thought process, but time goes on and I will focus on something else and the cycle repeat. I find it very hard to just close them because I keep thinking, I will need it soon but soon never comes or when it does I already closed it and now I’m blaming myself I didn’t have it open. It’s a silly issue to have but it’s how my brain works.
At least for me, I have ADHD—if it’s out of sight (i.e. another bookmark in one of the hundreds of folders I have), it ceases to exist, no matter how important or interesting it is.
I have 6 virtual desktops for current projects, with all of the tabs (and other applications) for each project on a desktop, and with a Firefox window for each “topic” within that project. I go through and close out old windows periodically (i.e. when I need to free up desktops), saving anything I might want to refer back to with the Tab Stash plugin. Importantly, I also have the Auto-Discard Tabs plugin so they aren’t using RAM until I need them again.
It might seem messy, but it’s what works best for my brain. I do at least try to not have more than 12 tabs per window. On rare occasions I’m even successful! 🙃
Shut up heretic
I, to my daughter: “For (this and that reason), you have to reboot your laptop.” Daughter: “But then I have to close the browser!!!” - she basically uses hundreds of browser tabs as temporary bookmarks, having pages open for weeks occasionally. Having to close down the browser is a panic-inducing thing for her…
Does she have ADHD by any chance? That’s a very consistent bit of behavior with myself and my ADHD homies.
Try a session manager add-on. In the list view, it’s easier to close the irrelevant ones, then save the important ones under a meaningful name, never to be restored - but just knowing it’s there if needed brings peace to mind, at least for me.
A tab may ascend to a bookmark once it has been verified good and/or useful.
Right now it is TBD, i came across it while looking at/for something and will keep going down that path, but want to take that tab page in in the future.
Those are my emotional support tabs, ok? yes all 22 of them.
Vivaldi has tab hibernation so that the extra tabs barely take any resources unless you open them.
I use over 100 tabs. Basically serves as an always changing bookmarks. Those tabs are also split across multiple workgroups between which I can switch easily with a flick of my mouse.
A wise person once told me
Unused RAM is wasted RAM
Unfortunately, the way many companies are set up these days, they require employees to use multiple different web applications to do their job. And if you’re a developer, you need many different tabs for testing scenarios.
I’d rather see the kind of tab organization found in Arc browser, but let’s take this a decade at a time.
Arc works perfectly for my workflow. Using Firefox since Netscape days, but arc is really good. Don’t love that it is chromium and not open, but the ux is incredible. And air traffic control is such a nice feature.
Let’s have tab rows back first, shall we? Reverting to CSS that you break every damn release is just stupid.
About time. Vivaldi has it for ages
This is actually great. I hope it makes it to Firefox Android as well.
I don’t actually have a use for it. But my partner is a huge tab group user on mobile, so I can’t switch her off of Chrome. If this launches on Firefox Android she would probably switch. It would be great for privacy and browser diversity.
Perfect timing as I just recently switched back to FF from Chrome and Safari and I freaking need this.
Me too! For now, check out Simple Tab Groups extension.
Yes, that is my main one along with TST!
awesome news, i loved the tab groups back when i was using edge.
Didn’t they use to have this years ago? And then removed it?
Opera has had this for sooooo long
And is also Chinese spyware
You’re Chinese spyware
Hey, hey, hey. I’m not Opera.
Multi-account containers + tab groups would make Firefox the perfect browser for me, and I wouldn’t be able to use anything else.
Multi-account containers are almost indispensable for developers. As for tab groups, I am currently using an add-on to manage them, but having a native feature would be very cool.
SimpleTabGroups and the ability to place pinned addons in any area of the browser UI already gives you that
I tried using SimpleTabGroups and I didn’t understand how to use it. Perhaps i’m coming from using Safari instead. Regardless, firefox is a very good browser and i’m using it on my PC!
A better frontend for about:profiles would be great as well.
