• HubertManne@kbin.social
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        I just use power tabs. gives me vertical, grouping, search, sorting, and some rules behaviour you can do but I don’t use that last part.

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        They require a lot of tinkering for a half-arsed result. Built in vertical tabs like in Vivaldi or edge work and feel much better with just a single setting.

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    As.someone who only used a couple of tabs open and even then upon restart of Firefox only has one tab open, this seems like a feature I wouldn’t really use?

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        I have 1408 tabs open. I use Tab Manager Plus to make sense of it all Can’t wait until we can use a locally running AI to search inside the tab contents and group tabs by content topic, because TMP can only search tab titles!

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          You might as well close the tabs and use a search engine at that point right? I honestly dont understand the workflow here

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            But I found the content … I don’t want to have to search again. Also google is becoming terribler by the day And I want to search that stuff locally, in my browser, I want to search the content of the tabs from my browser. From a single tab and only the subset of my tabs, not the whole internet.

            It’s like having your books on the table, open on the right page. And putting them back on the shelves, and then searching for which books to search. When we have a functionally infinite lenght table (well, about 2000 active tabs is about the limit for my 64gb system)

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              It’s like having your books open, with a mark in the book for the page. A book mark, if you will

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                Maybe that’s good enough for 1996, but that doesn’t do it for me.

                I want all those tabs, and all their content, in ram, and disable auto-discard. If the memory overflows it should write it to my pcie5 m.2 ssd not discard.

                And that’s just a stop-gap measure, because I want this data in my GPU’s VRAM part of a locally running open source text generative AI’s context, so I can ask it questions about it.

                I want to tell it, “take all my open tabs that relate to “HF radio” put them in their own window, open a new ownnotes and write an essay about the current status of my DIY amplifier project and then create a new check list of the design elements I still need to create”

                So, bookmarks, with the broken search that won’t let you search just one folder, no categorization, no visual preview, it doesn’t even save the content and just assumes the content will still be available at a later date, it’s too cloudbrained.

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                  I think this is totally reasonable, and a very forward thinking imagining of what the future of the internet could be like. I just thought that the analogy you made in the previous comment was a good one to like fun at.

                  I like the idea of being able to run elasticsearch/whatever on a local copy of the full text of all of your bookmarks.

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    I just use several windows on several virtual desktops. It’s much less cluttered.

    Those hacks are needed because windows can’t handle many things at once.

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    Thank Christ.

    Can they also be synced container tabs Mozilla? As in synced across devices. I know there’s a container tabs add on you can get, but it doesn’t sync from my laptop to my desktop to my phone. Would be awesome if they did so natively.

    While you’re at it, could you add tree style tabs natively in Firefox? Pretty please, with cream on top.

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    Please allow me to not use this. I switched to FF mobile because Chrome forced groups on their users and left no way to turn them off.

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      Fact that they survive shutdowns because they can live and travel in your bookmarks is a great feature. I use Nextcloud Bookmarks amd not FF Sync and they work great.

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    Firefox had tab grouping first. Before Chrome. And then it broke support for it when they did the add-ons overhaul. I’m surprised bringing it back wasn’t a high priority…

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      IIRC the old tab groups feature was eventually removed because telemetry showed that only very few people used it…

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        Watching people use Chrome, fucking nobody uses it there either, except for work situations where on FF, you’re supposed to be using Multi-Account containers anyways.

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        It didn’t help that they hid the button in the customize menu and made the feature not discoverable.

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          Right, but then you shouldn’t be shocked to find out that a feature was removed because nobody seemed to be using it.

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            No, I expect Mozilla to know their market and use other means (like focus groups or surveys or something) to figure out which features are actually popular, instead of lazily using a bad metric.

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              Mozilla knows their market. Because of said telemetry.

              How do you think that works? For any other app?

              Hint:

              (like focus groups or surveys or something)

              Not like this. Because they have both shown to be absolutely terrible for this general market preference research.

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                Did you miss the part of the conversation where folks were pointing out that lots of users turn the telemetry off?

                Your reply is as tone-deaf and non-responsive as sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling “nuh uh!” like a toddler.

                If you want to be persuasive you’ve got to prove that the telemetry is somehow useful in spite of many users turning it off, and you’ve done absolutely fuck-all to argue that.

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                  You are committing the same mistake as you accuse me of:

                  many users turning it off

                  [citation needed] [how many?]

                  For all you know, maybe the 15 very vocal users in here are the only ones who turn it off. Or do we know that many users do it? How many? 5%? 50%? 95%?

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    This is something I’ve wanted on Firefox for a while. Glad to see it’s finally happening!