• ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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      I don’t even understand this shit. People born in the 50s came of age in the 60s and the 70s. When they say they had happy days, they literally mean they watched it on TV.

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    If you were born in the 50’s you had rock and roll, acid rock, heavy metal, disco, synthwave, house, grunge, and rap.

    Not a bad claim to the best music. They only missed classical, jazz and big band. Weird Al was born in the 50’s. If you think Weird Al doesn’t have the best music then I say to you, “Good day, sir!”

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    Meanwhile in todays day have consumer cars that burn as much fuel as a semi, large 4x4 child pedestrian killers driven by soccer moms, Proud boys aren’t that old and they are pretty racist and active, School shootings, ‘anxious’ gun nuts shooting little girls on their lawns and clowns running countries into a 3rd world state during pandemics and giving bailouts to capitalist billionaires who are of a millennial age which are the entire cause of the housing crisis while there should be more than enough living space. There shouldn’t even be homeless right now.

    Complain all you want about boomers but all the newer generations came in hot on the heels to make it far worse than any boomer did. They poured gallons of gasoline on that fire.

    Fuck off with this ‘Z VS Boomer’ crap especially if you’re sitting here calling their music the best and listening to it.

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      Government is controlled by boomers. Blame should be placed on those who refuse to close loopholes and end bad laws, not those who abuse said loopholes.

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        Manipulators should absolutely hold the blame of their own actions. if you don’t like what boomers did, you can’t copy them and pretend you’re 100% innocent. That’s becoming the monster you hate and being manipulative to shift the blame off yourself. You are your own job. And if you have the chance to do better but still don’t, then you are pushing shitty double standards. That’s not reasonable. That’s being a bad actor. if you know better then do better. If you have the time to criticize, you have the time to help.

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          Public corporations are legally required to do what’s best for shareholders, not society. They are not bound by the values system you’ve posted and have no cognitive dissonance about becoming a monster. Government is the check to that - they set the boundaries under which corporations are allowed to operate. However the government no longer serves its constituents.

          I will also add that not all boomers are bad, and that the real enemy employs divide and conquer to sow division against anything that isn’t them. So they are happy to start flame wars about Z vs Boomer, Black vs White, male vs female - anything that is not working class vs capitalist

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    …and ignorant, and stupid, and moronic, and selfish, and rude, and entitled, and…

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    I think most of that is true, (born in 1959 myself), but I’m not remembering them being such happy days. Maybe less well informed days would be a better way to put it; before we had instant news of every bad thing happening, we lived in a kind of blissful ignorance.

    Everyone on earth is racist, make no mistake. It’s hardwired into our brains to see other certain groups of people as lesser or less deserving. Maybe it’s a holdover from primitive times, we’re not that far out from having been cave-people, maybe being tribal was a way of protecting ourselves. At any rate, everyone has some racism and/or phobia about others inside themselves.

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      The thing that’s “hardwired” is tribalism.

      A modern tribe is a class, or race, or people from a certain country, or even fans of a different sports team… It’s far more complex now. Each of these tribes are seen differently by each person, both within the “tribe” and external to the tribe. Eg, an American sees other Americans differently than a European sees Americans. Different clarifications and qualifiers are put on who is “in” the tribe and who isn’t. Where one individual may see “Americans” as anyone with a valid American citizenship, and another may see it as “only God fearing white Christians living in America are really Americans”… Kind of thing.

      Personally, I see all peoples of all races and nationalities, who live on earth as part of the tribe of humans. I am a part of that tribe and all other tribal tenancies or definitions are irrelevant for me. So I’m not excluding someone because of what they believe, how much they make, or what their heritage might be.

      In the before times, tribal mentalities were very useful, ensuring your tribe and your family survive. If that means taking all you can from another tribe, then that is what needs to happen. The tribe is of paramount importance. Even if you are killed, the tribe will help raise your offspring and the survival of your genetics is ensured.

      It was a very greedy and selfish mindset which was required to ensure survival back then.

      In the modern era, tribalism only creates division among the population. Whether this takes form as racism or nationalism or a religious crusade, it’s no longer required and only sews dissonance between you and your neighbors.

      You have a choice to make over who is “in” your tribe and who isn’t. I would argue that drawing that line based on race is possibly one of the worst ways to choose your tribe. We no longer need to fight over resources to survive. We do not need to divide ourselves over these petty things.

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      Racism might be hard wired into your brain, but it’s certainly not in mine. What an utterly stupid thing to say .

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        I don’t think anyone is above implicit/unconscious bias. We are all at least a little bit prejudice subconsciously, and it helps to be aware of it, so that you don’t accidentally treat others differently.

        Implicit bias can turn into racist actions, if not kept in check.

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        It’s literally engrained into your DNA but go off I guess.

        Racism is a part of “outsiders bad” which is bred into us because well, outsiders were bad. There was almost nothing more dangerous than running into an outside group.

        They might be friendly! They might share knowledge or food or resources! But more likely they’ll either kill you because you’re competition/not in the group/their god says your unclean.

        Racism is just the magnified effect of this well documented behavior.

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          It is actually part of the survival mechanism of us recognizing that we might be endangered by something unfamiliar to us. We DO have racist tendencies, all of us - including the tendency to call people “stupid” just for bringing up the idea of something new or challenging.

          We like to think we’re all above that, but in truth we’re still very primitive in many ways.

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          You can link to documents you’re referring to ?

          Because they will show everyone that the “outsiders are bad” is absolutely true, but they will not show a link to race or racism.

          Racism is a learned behaviour.

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            I agree that it’s a learned behaviour, but probably disagree on how it’s learned.

            I consider it a natural form of learning. Animals that don’t have predators are known to lack any cautious behavior towards other species. We even caused the extinction of such a bird by introducing predators into their habitat. Children who start out as blank slates are like that. They don’t care until they accrue enough experience to start recognizing the differences.

            We learn to distrust through experience. Whether this is directed by outside manipulation or self-realization, degrees of separation are gained over time through interactions or lack of. And the colour of one’s skin is an easily identifiable attribute that can give rise to the simple thought that we’re different. While to come to the conclusion that even if our skin colour is different, we are still the same on the inside is a lengthier thought process.

            The bias you might fall to in this context is generalizing racists. I don’t know if you do, so this is a hypothetical presentation.

            You don’t know how individuals have reached their conclusion to become racist and whether their personal experience has made them justified. You just assume that because racism is bad, they must be bad. Just like someone who becomes racist due to their bad experiences assumes everyone of a specific race is the same. It’s the same form of bias - to generalize a group based on your own experience with a few individuals.

            All we can say in support of our theories is “all the representatives of a group that I’ve met have been like this”, but even so, on a planet of 8 billion people, all of those are only but a drop in a bucket.

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            And I wonder if you just can’t accept any other point of view, because it challenges you and threatens you in some way.

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            Put a chimp and a gorilla in a cage and see what happens. This is true all the way down to black ants and red ants.

            Most species tend to stick together and tolerate other species. But when something happens, like food shortage or not enough space, they stop tolerating the other species in favor for their own.

            There are even social experiments when a group of humans are given 2 colors of tshirts and random tasks. The people with the same color shirt tend to group and work together for no appearant reason… Other than it is built in behavior.

            You can’t deny this even if you find it an unpleasant property.

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              You need to help me make the journey from racism being intrinsic vs Learned , and putting ants in a cage because I am totally lost.

              You’re making it up, you can’t back up a word of it, and I think it’s very silly.

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        A stupid thing is dismissing new information without considering it because of your own prejudices, you’ve just proven what I was saying, everyone has racism or phobia (and you certainly do).

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    fastest cars

    You can buy a mid level sedan with a turbo today that will blow the doors off of most cars from that era. I mean we have cars today with 1500+ horsepower with zero modifications.

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      People from the 50 usually could earn actually money that they could save and now buy new cars

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      I don’t disagree with your first part but 1,500 stock HP?? Even Tesla, known for making up numbers, says that the S Plaid makes 1,020hp.

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          Eh, I’m not trying to be pedantic but it seems a bit disingenuous to include boutique hypercars in this kind of conversation. Almost all those above 1,200hp were produced in extremely limited production runs. Sure, we might have cars making 1,500hp or more, but it isn’t like that’s in any way common or the technology needed to make them is attainable to many people. Shit, I think a more effective comparison to get your point across is the fact that a base level Civic is making more power than a '67 Nova SS.

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            Yeah from the list the absolutely nuts, one-off, dragracing versions of cars from the 50s/60s made ~400hp. Which could be outdone by an option on the Camero last year. And if you wanted more it’s not difficult, just more money.

            And raw HP numbers don’t take into account how much better modern cars drive or how much safer they are. I daily a car from the 80s and love it. But lack of ABS or traction control or airbags or a collapsible steering column does come to mind every once in awhile. Cars from the 50s/60s will have notably worse handling/cornering/etc.

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            I think a more effective comparison to get your point across is the fact that a base level Civic is making more power than a '67 Nova SS.

            You’re literally just rewording the first sentence of my original comment dawg.

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    This is the mentality of older boomers you didn’t go through the war or the 50s you were a baby. You literally rode the 60s-90s boom train . Remember one telling me rose tinted stories about rationing dude was 50 it ended like 20 years before he was born

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    True Boomer Monolithicism on display.

    WE had the best music

    WE had drive-ins

    WE had Happy Days

    Anyone who didn’t like them wasn’t one of US

    But yeah, it was the damn hivemind commies who were the problem