genuinely curious as to why people choose that brand, are alternatives really that bad?
As I see it:
- you pay for the hardware and software, which is fine, but
- if you want to upgrade the OS, you have to pay once again, but this doesn’t work if your hardware model stops being supported. Why pay for something with a limited life expectancy?
- you cannot get rid of bloatware, only hide it
- software is made specifically to be only compatible within their ecosystem. If you want to build up on existing software and hardware, you either stay in their system and keep paying them or start anew with a freer alternative.
- I find it ridiculous they use fancy names to name even their support staff instead of just calling it support staff. Why make things complicated?
- I don’t understand why they use pentalobe screws instead or regular ones (with a line or a cross section)
Feel free to correct me, I may be misguided.
I used Android phones since the G1 and decided to give it a punt after a few phones in a row developed problems less than 2 years old. Well it turns out Apple devices just work and keep on working so I now have a few.
Still don’t want a Mac though.
iPhone/ipad user here. I also have managed 1000’s of mobile devices for over a decade.
I’ve never paid for an OS upgrade.
Apple supports devices longer than most large android OEMs.
Not much bloatware that I can think of.
Yes, software built for one OS doesn’t usually go to another OS without much issue. If it does it’s because it’s a PWA. Also, I have money.
Who cares what they call their staff?
Flat/Philips head screws are the worst. Nearly anything else is better. Years of working with HP/Compaq, Dell, BlackBerry,super micro,Nortel, Cisco, Ford, Mitsubishi, bmw, Suzuki, Yamaha equipment has made me realize that.
The last paid update was 10.8 Mountain Lion in 2012. It seems it was $30. The last full priced update was 10.5 Leopard for $129 in 2007.
I wish all windows users a very 65 decibel fan noise on opening 3rd chrome tab.
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I’ve never bought an apple product in my life, but even my android phone drives me nuts at times…
Android is definitely the lesser of two evils. I fucking hate SAF with a passion. A phone which doesn’t let me have a 20 digit passcode says letting my apps access my Download folder is insecure, and thus, not allowed?
ios has both custom numeric code and custom alphanumeric code options that allow the use of a possibly arbitrarily long numeric or alphanumeric code. idk how long it can be because i’ve never run into a character limit…
Yes, iOS solves that one problem at a cost of 20 more. I have my few gripes with Android (seriously Google, what were you thinking with that 16 character limit?) but it’s certainly no content to iOS. iOS is fine at most simple day to day things but terrible at anything more advanced.
I’m not trying to convince you of anything, just correct some information readers might stumble across.
Enjoy using android.
Huh? You weren’t correcting any misinformation, just providing additional information. No one had said that iOS had a password length limit, just that Android does.
My mistake, I read
Android is definitely the lesser of two evils. I fucking hate SAF with a passion. A phone which doesn’t let me have a 20 digit passcode says letting my apps access my Download folder is insecure, and thus, not allowed?
As talking about ios lol.
My assumption was that android would of course allow the user to let applications do stuff in downloads (maybe just like you) and I don’t know what SAF was.
Til. Thanks!
I think a lot of folks hate Windows and are intimidated by, or don’t want to be inconvenienced by Linux.
I used to use a corer/slicer combo, but it was still just faster and easier to do the quarter and trim method.
I choose Apple because its the lesser evil. Going fairphone/postmarketos (or degoogled android) is too much trouble and I’m not that idealistic. I respect those who do, though.
Only recent Apple product I have is an iPad. Android still isn’t that great when it comes to tablets and doesn’t have many tablet optimized apps. The iPad is nice for drawing using the pencil and Procreate, watching movies and reading the newspaper. I don’t use any of the Apple ecosystem stuff like iCloud etc. Some things are mildly infuriating though, like having no real browser choice (hopefully soon to change).
I use an iPhone because I need two things to just work, and my phone is one of those things. (The other is my car, but that isn’t super relevant here.)
I have an iPhone, MacBook, and run Linux on a desktop pc. Only thing I have to add is that on iOS the only apps you can’t remove is phone, messages, settings, App Store, and safari which I wouldn’t consider bloatware. On macos I think u can remove pretty much anything using workarounds. Rn apples arm laptops are some of the most efficient on the market, iPads are pretty good tablets, and iPhones work great with both of those products.
I use a Macbook Pro because they are much more performant and have way longer battery life compared to a similarly priced Windows laptop, no other reason. There is just nothing in the x86 realm that is even comparable to what Apple silicon offers, and Windows on ARM offerings just aren’t really there yet. I use a Windows desktop and an Android phone, though.
I have an iPhone. I was bullied into it by my family and didn’t do enough research, so I didn’t fully understand what was meant by a lot of the above until I experienced it. I was also getting really irritated by Google’s expanding empire of evil and wanted to try something else. But I’ve now realized that there are no good options for smart phones at the moment that are accessible to ordinary people.
After having read the title I was gonna say I make my own applesauce and dont use apple jams or jellies. Good thing I read the rest of the post
This, folks, is why people who respect their readers capitalize words.
In my experience, Apple makes computing products for people who don’t like computing products.
They make computing appliances. And are progressively locking them down more and more.That said, the hardware apart from the anti repair lockouts is fine.
But if you want to make major changes to the look and feel, that is not the apple way. If you want to make basic changes to the hardware configuration, that is not the apple way. An apple product only does what it’s designed for and what they allow it to do. But only for as long as they allow it. Apple was one of the first outside the phone space to push artificial obsolescence heavily. Which MS recently adopted as well.
But to people with very basic needs it’s what they want. Opaque inscrutable slabs with a tightly designed stack that does what they need reliably. They don’t want to have to install an OS or change out hardware. And can live with the bland conformal interface.
There is very little else like it anywhere else, outside of… Maybe something like raspberry pi os. Maybe Microsoft Surface hardware that they’ve had a hard time committing to.
I’ve never used an Android that felt like it was out of beta testing yet and they stopped making Windows phones and BlackBerrys (BlackBerries?). I only used my phone for texting and email and my significant other talked me into an expensive-ass iPhone 8 and I’ve just kinda kept going with them. I have an 8 and a 12 and I plan on using the 12 until it falls apart and then go back to the 8 until that one dies too. If e-ink phones aren’t a thing by that time I’ll get a dumb phone and separate device for Authenticator passcodes.
As for why - I don’t need the latest and greatest features on my phone. It may be an old way of thinking but I’d rather use a computer and dumb phone over a smart phone on its own.
