• AstralPath@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    Does Lemmy need to grow for some reason? Sometimes I swear I can feel the Reddit community toxicity seeping in and its really disappointing. Honestly, for me personally if Lemmy continued on exactly as it is today, I’d be perfectly content.

    That said, if there are benefits to growth beyond the wide scope of mass adoption fucking over the proprietary social medias I’m all ears.

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      Lemmy doesn’t have the niche communities that Reddit did, and those come with a larger user base.

      Lemmy has plenty of memes, politics, Linux, and anime, but there are many small communities which do not (yet) have active equivalents here.

      Here are a few of my own examples, but everyone will have their own unique list: r/wheresthebeef, r/Penderwicks, r/twistypuzzles, r/Cubers, r/fusion, r/legoRockets, r/HarryPotteronHBO, r/anarchycubing, r/deextinction, r/cubinggore.

      I would welcome more users if it means more niche communities.

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      I understand what are you saying but forget about overall size of the community for a second, what lemmy would really benefit from is more niche subreddits with active users. That will only come from more people on lemmy and that is the real reason to desire lemmy growth besides a basic wish for other people to not be stuck in a shitty corporate silo.

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      4 months ago

      I’d like some niche communities to be more active, and realistically speaking that’s only going to happen with a bigger userbase.

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    4 months ago

    AFAIK, V0.19 adds anyone that votes to MAU instead of just commenters and posters, so any server thats converted is reporting better #s. With Lemmy.world now on 0.19, expect this to be even sharper.

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    4 months ago

    Super, super impressive.

    Most web apps, especially social media - get that peak and then have this huge falloff (see Threads for a particularly grisly example). Lemmy seems really good at keeping its user base.

    It reminds me that I need to contribute posts more often myself. I’m think the only reason I ever go back to reddit is that it has some specialized subs we just don’t have here yet. But sometimes you have to start posting to an audience of 0 to get things going.

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    4 months ago

    Part of it could be that people post less during the holidays and there is a significant portion of people who browse sites like reddit/Lemmy during their downtime at work.

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    4 months ago

    I’ve heard about Lemmy for a while, and I just joined after getting permanently banned for “threatening violence” after posting “nice sub here” in a new subreddit. I wish I were joking, but it personally doesn’t surprise me that much when considering my past experiences. The appeal was denied.

    Reddit’s most dedicated and longstanding users can only tolerate so many nonsensical and frivolous permanent account bans over the years before they flock to that beautiful forest sprouting up across the river. Lemmy should continue to grow because people like me intend to be here for the life of it.

    My last few months on Reddit were spent tracking bot accounts, and taking note of suspicious patterns of certain subreddits refusing to take action against blatant propaganda bots. I’m glad to be past that, at least for now, and I wish the users I’m leaving behind luck. Things were nuts.

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      getting permanently banned for “threatening violence” after posting “nice sub here” in a new subreddit

      A bot likely checked what other subreddits you were subscribed to and found one deemed not acceptable.

    • Dempf@lemmy.zip
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      Yeah I got permabanned too.

      I still post there occasionally. I made 4 new Reddit accounts from behind 7 proxies, but they all got banned due to browser fingerprinting. But I wised up and now the 5th one’s still not banned even though I access it from my home IP. I really try my best not to give such a hostile company more content, but there’s still a few local subs and specific content that isn’t big enough yet on Lemmy.

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      Just be aware Lemmy has its own share of issues and extremist views. It’s not as simple as Reddit is evil and Lemmy is good, both have their pros and cons at end of day and realistically they both probably have a role to play for people.

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        It is as simple as the fact that being banned from a Lemmy instance does not shutdown access to all of Lemmy’s communities like it does with Reddit.

        This allows actual, messy, contextualized moderation to happen within communities according to the values of those communities without creating broader distortions in a global moderation policy and enforcement scheme.

        In other words there are unfortunately transphobic communities on Reddit and Lemmy, but the difference is there are also (many) communities on Lemmy that if you start spouting transphobic bullshit a moderator will unceremoniously and fairly quickly shut you down without a bunch of techbro handwringing about censorship or general apathy towards violence against trans people.

        This aspect does in fact make Lemmy clearly better than Reddit on the whole, because this is a fundamental issue to social networks and communities.

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          Not sure I understand tbh. Seems exactly the same?

          You get banned in a reddit community you can’t access it, you get banned in a lemmy community you can’t access it.

          I’ve been banned from reddit communities and can still access reddit. If you’ve been banned from Reddit completely you must have done some terrible shit.

          In your example, you’re also suggesting a transphobic person has more scope on Lemmy to continue being transphobic than on Reddit. That’s not a good thing?

          I am quite confused by your post tbh.

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            You get banned from reddit as a whole and you’re done, lemmy.world admin could ban me and I’d still have plenty of communities.

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              Who gets banned from Reddit as a whole though?

              You’d have to literally be posting child porn or something.

              Or is this just a conceptual argument that doesn’t actually mean anything in reality?

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                4 months ago

                I’m not on reddit but people claim to be site banned for trivial things sometimes.

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      Lmao, I was banned on reddit for reporting something somebody else wrote. Banned for abuse of the report system. Just want to repeat, it was a full reddit ban, not a subreddit ban.

      I had submitted a total of 5 reports over the life of the account. The first 3 were acted on by the admins (clear calls to violence/racism) and 2 that passed admin review.

      The first report I submitted on r/worldnews led to me being banned from reddit.

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      i’m pretty sure i account for about half of those. i had dozens of fediverse identities before lemmy and now… well lets just say **i** don’t think it’s a problem, but at this point i think i could identify a lemmy welcome email at 200 feet.

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    4 months ago

    Wanna get more ppl on Lemmy?

    Just show them the dope apps like sync. The web interface low key sucked at the start and almost drove me away.

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      Over time people from that initial spike realized that the platform isn’t what they expected/liked, some likely went back to their previous platform but i am going to be optimistic and say they moved to mastodon.

      The climb we see now is fresh users that heard of lemmy and are now checking it out.

      //This is how i read this graph, other interpretation may be possible, you can’t really know for certain without more data.

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        Traffic peaked at the reddit migration, after that, people either left or became mostly lurkers, and since lemmy versions before 0.19 didn’t count votes as activity most users were not included in the graph.

        Now that instances are upgrading to 0.19 there’s an increase of activity.

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    My internet experience has been slower since switching to Mastodon and Lemmy/Kbin. And it’s so nice. The things I see are more interesting. The conversations are usually more well thought out. And lowest common denominator dopamine content isn’t being driven into my eyeballs by Algorithms. I’ve legitimately been happier since the Reddit API debacle.

    Long live the Old Internet.

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      Seriously, it feels like 1999 internet. And I’m loving it!

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    I come after the great reddit API purge. Haven’t looked back and I’m happy for it.

    I’ve gotten part of my life back as a result.

    • CptOblivius@lemmy.world
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      Me as well. I occasionally peak back to some niche subreddits, but don’t contribute anymore. I’m hoping some pop up here over time.

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          I feel like the sports communities are lacking critical mass and for some reason I just don’t see content from some of the small communities (specifically magic the gathering for me) pop up on my feed. Like it’d be nice the algo pushed them more since I am subbed and want to participate.

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    4 months ago

    I assume this latest bump is due to lemmy.world updating and now counting lurkers when assessing active users.

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      4 months ago

      Probably a lot more to do with people being pissed about reddit going public and selling their data to ai companies for profits.

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        I think of a lurker as someone who doesn’t post - I guess your definition is someone who doesn’t interact at all (besides making an account and subscribing, I assume). But yes, I mean users who only vote are now counted (it’s not using views afaik).

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        Don’t forget that Reddit was made up of 90% lurkers, and less than 1% of active posters, the rest would comment but rarely post themselves. These numbers are great if we keep those statistics in mind

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          Commenters were already counted, though, so this bump is really just the vote-only population getting added. Which is still important to maintaining a healthy and varied front-page, mind you.