For my use cases (audio, programming, engineering school, watching crap on FreeTube) I value stability and predictability over security and shiny new stuff. In the rare cases that things break, they break in ways that are already well-understood, so usually have workarounds or solutions.
In the few cases I do need something newer than the Debian repos provide, I just use Flatpaks or get an updated .deb from the devs of the particular software.
So yeah, zero rush for Plasma 6 for me. It looks nice, but I’ll just be chilling on Plasma 5 until it comes out.
There is a fine line between stable and outdated. Some debian pakages are like 2 years out of date. I just cant handle that on a desktop.
So don’t run stable on a desktop? If you want a bleeding edge rolling release, that’s what sid is for.
Dont you think there is a healthy line between booth? I would not whant anyone using old ass versions with old ass bugs. Its also bad for new users, who expect software to be remotly up to date.
For the target users of Debian stable? No.
Debian stable is for servers or other applications where security and predictability are paramount. For that application I absolutely do not want a lot package churn. Quite the opposite.
Meanwhile Sid provides a rolling release experience that in practice is every bit as stable as any other rolling release distro.
And if I have something running stable and I really need to pull in the latest of something, I can always mix and match.
What makes Debian unique is that it offers a spectrum of options for different use cases and then lets me choose.
If you don’t want that, fine, don’t use Debian. But for a lot of us, we choose Debian because of how it’s managed, not in spite of it.
I understand it won’t be trivial but I wonder if, theoretically, a team can ship & maintain a KDE 6 “flatpak” or “snap”
I mean in technical terms, not that they would with the non technical mistakes Ubuntu keeps doing.
But why would you choose a distro like debian if you wanted the newest untested shit?
You’d do much better with Fedora, Arch or other hasty adopter
Arch users are late to the party. NixOS had plasma 6 the same day as the release.
Arch users whenever they update
Ironic that this image does not load for me
Works on my PC
Btw I use Arch
same using alexandrite
yay
That but add an -Syu at the end.
No need for that, why typing useless letters?
Why use many words when few words do trick?
Awwww my GUI stopped working again after an update
I think I never waited so long for so few pixels outside or Reddit.
Made the switch on EndeavourOS this morning and so far so good. I was hesitant to update to Wayland because I’m still a newb and heard there were issues, but my system is AMD based so no problems (yet).
I like it
My biggest issue with wayland was screensharing on Discord, but plasma 6 fixed that with xwaylandvideobridge
I’ve been using Wayland as a daily driver for a few years now, and I’d say it’s ready for 98% of use cases
I think most people complaining about Wayland nowadays are just Nvidia users. I don’t have any problems with it on my AMD GPU.
Joke’s on you! My configuration is so borked that I’m afraid to upgrade!
In a way, Squidward is really like Debian, if those two are Arch and NixOS. And as I grow older, I can relate to Squidward more and more…
Come to the dark side, join the sid.
This is more accurate
Dont really care, every time i tried plasma it was trash - just an unstable mess of setting that randomly unexpectedly break
Yes, obviously, software remains exactly the same after 1 and a half decade, I still run the original UNIX created at bell.
Analysis: user error.
A layer 8 issue
Actually, I enjoy not having to rush to reconfigure my DE
Apparently the upgrade (including configuration) is incredibly smooth. Those interested in tinkering with the vanilla experience have had to install it in a VM.
What distros have more up to date packages than Debian but aren’t as bleeding edge as arch? I’m looking for an in between.
Fedora is great. Heavily modded distros like Nobara is awesome too specifically for gaming but for privacy I recommend doing a thorough look over.
Debian Testing or openSuse Tumbleweed
opensuse tumbleweed
Rolling release?
I want revolving release, every one is a russian roulette to destroy my system
Welcome to Manjaro.
can’t understand how manjaro is still alive, given how much better endeavouros configures the system
Yeah, no idea. EOS is much better in every single way.
Why would I want Plasma 6 on a stable release. That’s not why people use Debian
I really do want to thank Arch, Fedora, NixOS, OpenSUSE users for beta testing software for me.
Arch is the least buggy distro I ever tried.
Except for Slackware maybe. Slackware has literally no bugs. If it doesn’t behave like it should, it’s your fault.
Same. I’ve switched to Arch from Ubuntu as my main os almost 10 years ago and in all that time I’ve had a problem that goes beyond inconvenience level maybe twice. In fact Ubuntu broke more often.
I broke my install by updating it, I get that if you perfectly understand what’s going on then it has no bugs but that’s really not my experience. A lot of the time something will break and it’s easy to say “I should’ve known it was this so it’s my fault” but really if you didn’t expect it to work a certain way and it breaks it’s not a super stable system.
My Ubuntu broke literally every time I did a version upgrade. It’s probably better now, but I’m not going back.
The last system that straight up broke for me was a default installation of Debian Stable, and that wasn’t long ago.I understand Arch isn’t easy to use or maintain.
But in my opinion, if you use something wrong and it breaks, that doesn’t mean it’s unstable. And if you update Arch by simply hitting “pacman -Syu” every day, you’re doing it wrong.But if lots of people use it wrong and break it then maybe it’s too obtuse. I broke one of my applications by upgrading packages. The solution? Install the package again, I thought the package manager would take care of stuff like that but if it’s meant to be me then I think it’s a bad system.
I always find it kinda weird when people criticize free software.
Like, the developers make something, give it to you for free, pay for server space so you can download it for free, and then you say “it sucks”.
OK, just don’t use it then.Criticism and hate are two different things. I hate windows, I can criticise parts of arch Linux which is so far my favourite OS. Me not liking part of it or the way it works doesn’t mean there’s another version that is completely perfect and I should just shut up and use that. Also no it doesn’t suck, but updating my system and having it break is a problem I should not be having.
Me using GNOME on Arch
